Should Victimhood Grant Immunity From Inspection?

[glorydaz]

So stop focusing on strippers and start focusing on other "normal" dress that you would admit is immodest. Like a bikini at the beach, right? You do think wearing bikinis in public are immoral, don't you?

Look dingbaticus, I used strippers because it was the only example I could think of where a woman's bad behavior might get her raped. I don't judge morality by what people wear, but on what they do. People can walk around naked in a nudist camp for all I care. A woman can be immoral with all her clothes on. A stripper's behavior is immoral because she is taking off her clothes and enticing men to sin.

 

[Rusha]

Yes, he really did ask about him and his wife in his OP.
He has brought up his wife several times over the years here at TOL.
And he still is.

Indeed ... in the last couple of days, he created ANOTHER thread to specifically his personal life. At this point, that makes two threads.

Isn't he the one who keeps claiming "TOL is for dialogue" when it comes to TH's thread ... but it's not for dialogue on his own threads?

Hmmmm ....

 

[glorydaz]

Her statement may have been based on past dialogue but it was still a general statement.

Squirm and wiggle, you're still ignorant.

 

[Tambora]

Yes, IF a man's behavior is bad, a woman could leave him and he very well could learn his lesson. It's happened many times.

Agreed.
So we can add it to all the "maybes" that others, including yourself, have suggested.

Of course you seem to assume the man had the bad behavior instead of the wife.

Of course you seem to assume that the woman had the bad behavior instead of the husband.
It could go either way, so both need to be explored; not just one side.
I have simply offered another "maybe" to the list that you and others have come up with.
Why is that a problem?

 

[Rusha]

Yes, he really did ask about him and his wife in his OP.
He has brought up his wife several times over the years here at TOL.
And he still is.

Amazing ... he did that with his call out thread for the purpose of pretending you misinterpreted his words.

Funny how that old quote feature put things in perspective ....

 

[Tambora]

Indeed ... in the last couple of days, he created ANOTHER thread to specifically his personal life. At this point, that makes two threads.

Never fear, there will be more.

 

[patrick jane]

Look dingbaticus, I used strippers because it was the only example I could think of where a woman's bad behavior might get her raped. I don't judge morality by what people wear, but on what they do. People can walk around naked in a nudist camp for all I care. A woman can be immoral with all her clothes on. A stripper's behavior is immoral because she is taking off her clothes and enticing men to sin.

You've had time to think of other examples, but all you talk about is strippers. Did a stripper wrong you in your life ?

 

[glorydaz]

No, when someone shares something, and then you keep bringing it up and using it to attack the person, the fault is on YOU.

Like you and I did to PJ .... and others.

Oh, did PJ share something about his personal relationships or was he married and I missed it? :shocked:

No, speak for yourself. I won't accept responsibility for anything you did. I addressed the lies he told right here in front of God and everybody. And I did the same with the "others" who insisted on sticking up for the cry baby. I'd do the same today without any regrets. But, I sure don't have to engage in gossip to do any of that.

 

[glorydaz]

So you are absolving the rapist of the motive of rape, while making her culpable for the rape? Weird.

IF it wasn't in his heart and character, it wouldn't happen.

I'm not absolving the rapist of anything....nor am I absolving the stripper like you all love to do.

 

[glorydaz]

You've had time to think of other examples, but all you talk about is strippers. Did a stripper wrong you in your life ?

Actually, strippers, sluts, prostitutes, harlots, whoremongers, porn stars, child molesters, rapists, killers and thieves do great damage to society at large, and families in particular and themselves most of all. They haven't done a thing to me.

I do know that if there were no ungodly women out there, it would cut the world's problems in half.

 

[glorydaz]

Yes, he really did ask about him and his wife in his OP.
He has brought up his wife several times over the years here at TOL.
And he still is.

After you changed the subject from sexual immorality to failure to cling to one's wife. You jab caused him to ask the question.

 

[glorydaz]

Agreed.
So we can add it to all the "maybes" that others, including yourself, have suggested.

Of course you seem to assume that the woman had the bad behavior instead of the husband.
It could go either way, so both need to be explored; not just one side.
I have simply offered another "maybe" to the list that you and others have come up with.
Why is that a problem?

It wouldn't be a problem at all if it weren't for the fact that you ARE talking about Doser in particular. Which, by the way, has been my point from the get go.

 

[Tambora]

I addressed the lies he told right here in front of God and everybody.

By quoting his own words.

 

[Eeset]

Actually, strippers, sluts, prostitutes, harlots, whoremongers, porn stars, child molesters, rapists, killers and thieves do great damage to society at large, and families in particular and themselves most of all. They haven't done a thing to me.

I do know that if there were no ungodly women out there, it would cut the world's problems in half.

How silly is that? If there were no ungodly men it would probably cut the world's problems by 95% or more.

 

[glorydaz]

How silly is that? If there were no ungodly men it would probably cut the world's problems by 95% or more.

Golly, you may be right about that. Since the men wouldn't be wanting strippers etc. :thumb:

 

[Tambora]

It wouldn't be a problem at all if it weren't for the fact that you ARE talking about Doser in particular. Which, by the way, has been my point from the get go.

When I have spoken about Doser (or anyone else) in particular, I say who they are.
I don't have any qualms about naming names, like some do.
(Not saying they are wrong to not name names, but just that I, personally, am not that hesitant about it.)

If I speak in general, I use no names, but just use terms like "man and his wife", or "one and their spouse".
It just so happens that many of these generic questions will apply to Doser's life because it is in the context of what is being discussed (divorce, adultery, marriage) and how either of the spouses might have contributed to it by bad behavior.
A drawn out way to say, "If the shoe fits ....".


I haven't checked, but I'm wondering if there is any of Dosers's rape, behavior, deservedness, and Tambora question threads where he hasn't mentioned his wife committed adultery.

 

[glorydaz]

By quoting his own words.

So you're comparing Doser and Climate Sanity sharing some personal details about their private lives, and PJ lying through his teeth, whining like a baby, accusing us of picking on him, and trying to turn everyone against us? Odd, very odd. :think:



Well, I see a huge difference. In fact, I see more than I ever thought I'd see. :e4e:

 

[glorydaz]

I haven't checked, but I'm wondering if there is any of Dosers's rape, behavior, deservedness, and Tambora question threads where he hasn't mentioned his wife committed adultery.

Probably not since you never fail to allude to it or bring it up directly. Whatever. I can see you're determined, and I no longer care. Strippers are fine and Doser is worse than PJ. Gotcha :thumb:

 

[1PeaceMaker]

I'm not absolving the rapist of anything....nor am I absolving the stripper like you all love to do.

If you aren't absolving the stripper, are you suggesting she get the same penalty as the rapist for the act she is supposedly an accessory to?

Why or why not?

 

[1PeaceMaker]

Actually, strippers, sluts, prostitutes, harlots.....

Why do you now bring up "sluts" and do you think they are asking for rape like the other class of person you mention constantly?

I do know that if there were no ungodly women out there, it would cut the world's problems in half.

Do you think it would cut down on the number of them being raped? Why or why not?