Memento Mori
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By your command, sir. Two posts is quite a few, isn't it?
It only takes two to make quite a few.
By your command, sir. Two posts is quite a few, isn't it?
It was just answered! Whatever laws were in place at that time applied to that time, would you sooner we go back to them for ALL of the laws that have been laid out? How about you start answering some questions? Do you think that Jesus should have let the adulterous woman die as the law commanded or do you think that he gave a highly relevant message to that self righteous bloodthirsty mob that wanted to stone her to death? Do you think that adultery should be a capital crime in todays society?
Do you think that Jesus disagreed with His Father?
Not to butt in, but what do you make of these two verses?
Leviticus 12:3
And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
Galatians 5:2
Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
You act as though I have not answered that before, to you directly.
This is disturbing--a teenage girl could show up in a church pregnant, and everyone would be like "Oh, you made a horrible mistake, but there is forgiveness." If a homosexual or even a suspected homosexual walks into a church, we're like "AAAAHHH!! You're a disgusting pervert and you're going to hell!!!"
I thought we were supposed to love the sinner and hate the sin...not execute the sinner because they are deceived/ignorant.
You did NOT answer my simple question. Answer it and I will see what I can do about your questions.
Yup, that is fair.
It only takes two to make quite a few.
Can someone give an intelligent rundown of how and why these vary in importance, or how they may or may not apply to today?
That would be helpful in helping people accept that homosexuality should be receive the death penalty.
It would certainly help to convince those who aren't convinced.
If there happened to be little variance in importance, and it was thought that most or all of these laws should be instigated, then can we get past the any clever juggling of Scripture, and have a defining set of Scriptures which put to rest the doubts?
Please?
This is disturbing--a teenage girl could show up in a church pregnant, and everyone would be like "Oh, you made a horrible mistake, but there is forgiveness." If a homosexual or even a suspected homosexual walks into a church, we're like "AAAAHHH!! You're a disgusting pervert and you're going to hell!!!"
I thought we were supposed to love the sinner and hate the sin...not execute the sinner because they are deceived/ignorant. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. We heterosexual Christians were not born saved, and we lived in sin at one point too. It's sad that we forget that and choose instead to be full of Christian pride instead of the compassion that Christ calls us to have for others.
What do you think? Do you think any of them should apply? Child molesters should be put to death, so anyone else?
Those verses are talking about being circumcised in the flesh, Christians are supposed to be circumcised in the heart.
Circumcision is symbolic of the stripping away of your old sinful self and a dedication to God in your heart.
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There will be some here however who say that we are in fact supposed to hate the person as well :doh:
It wouldn't bother me to see people guitly of commiting violent crimes put to death.
NO!
No more than anyone else should!
What about Jesus and the woman caught in adultery? Can't you follow the principle through to its logical conclusion?
Just to get a grip on this, maybe like:
“Few people can be happy unless they hate some other person, nation, or creed” ?
That could be two.
Sorry to change the subject for a sec. Just wanted a clarification.
I thought we were supposed to love the sinner and hate the sin...
Most of those crimes seem to have to do with murder, sex crimes or kidnapping.
Paul sums it up here:
Romans 1:28-32