Shalom. Are you without sin?

Jacob

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Well without wanting to offend I do have my doubts , I struggle with just the 10 !
But in keeping all these commandments (which is pretty impressive, if true ) why was Jesus necessary ?


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Shalom.

See the following.


Romans 3:23
Romans 3:25
Romans 5:1
1 Corinthians 15:7

Romans 3:23 NASB - 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Romans 3:25 NASB - 25 whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;

Romans 5:1 NASB - 1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

1 Corinthians 15:7 NASB - 7 then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles;

It was necessary, for, the following.


Hebrews 9:23
Luke 24:26

Hebrews 9:23 NASB - Therefore it was necessary for the copies of the things in the heavens to be cleansed with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

Luke 24:26 NASB - "Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and to enter into His glory?"

Shalom.

Jacob
 

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Shalom.

See the following.


Romans 3:23
Romans 3:25
Romans 5:1
1 Corinthians 15:7

Romans 3:23 NASB - 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Romans 3:25 NASB - 25 whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;

Romans 5:1 NASB - 1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

1 Corinthians 15:7 NASB - 7 then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles;

It was necessary, for, the following.


Hebrews 9:23
Luke 24:26

Hebrews 9:23 NASB - Therefore it was necessary for the copies of the things in the heavens to be cleansed with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

Luke 24:26 NASB - "Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and to enter into His glory?"

Shalom.

Yes we all fall short of the glory of God , as romans 3:23 states . Do you think by keeping the law you escape this clause ? ... No of course not ! The only way we can stand righteous before God is because Jesus was entirely necessary .


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Asking a question such as “Are you without sin?” is somewhat problematic. To begin with, precisely how are you defining the word “sin?”

The Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines the Noun – sin as:
1 a: an offense against religious or moral law
b: an action that is, or is felt to be, highly reprehensible – “it’s a sin to waste food”
c: an often serious shortcoming: Fault

2 a: transgression of the law of God
b: a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from God

And defines the Verb – sin as:
1: to commit a sin
2: to commit an offense or fault

Unfortunately, none of these definitions have anything to do with any of the Hebrew Nouns or Verbs translated as “sin.”

The Verbs – חֵטא ḥétʾ and – חָטָא ḥataʾ both mean: “to miss the mark,” “to fall short,” “to err,” etc. The Masculine Noun – חֶטְאָה ḥet’ah and the Feminine Noun – חַטָּאת ḥattaʾt both mean: “accident,” “error,” “inadvertence,” “mistake,” “shortcoming,” etc.

Think of it this way: You are an expert archer and you hit everything you aim at every single time. One day while shooting an arrow at the bulls-eye of a target a sudden gust of wind blows your arrow off target. Had it not been for that unforeseen occurrence you would have hit the bulls-eye, but do to circumstances outside of your control you missed.

That is precisely what a ḥattaʾt is: an accident, mistake or error. It is when you accidentally violate a Mitz’vah without even knowing that you are doing it. So the question here is: Can you live without accidentally violating a Mitz’vah?

For gentiles the answer is very simple: Yes you absolutely can live without accidentally violating a Mitz’vah. This is because it is impossible to accidentally violate any of the Sh’vaʿ Mitz’vot b’néy Noaḥ. You cannot accidentally commit idolatry; you cannot accidentally blaspheme; you cannot accidentally commit murder; you cannot accidentally steal; you cannot accidentally perform an illegal sex act; you cannot accidentally eat the meat of an animal with its life (blood) in it; you cannot accidentally not set up courts of justice.

For Jews it is a little more complicated, because Jews have 606 more Mitz’vot to follow than gentiles. There are a great many Mitz’vot that can be violated accidentally. For example: You can accidentally open the refrigerator door on Shabbat out of force of habit.

The bigger question should concern whether or not a person can live without committing any – עֲווֹנֹת ʿăvonot or – פְּשָׁעִים p’shaʿiym, which are willful and intentional violations of Mitz’vot. You have to actively choose to commit these types of offenses. You cannot accidentally become a serial murderer or a serial rapist. So can a person live without committing these offenses? Absolutely, just don’t do them, it is exactly that simple.

A ḥattaʾt or “sin,” is a mistake, error or accident, things that we normally have no control over. Have you ever made a mistake on a math test, or a spelling test, or a science test? I am not talking about answering a question incorrectly simply because you did not know the correct answer. I am talking about accidentally writing the incorrect answer when you actually knew the correct answer. Circumstances such as these are precisely what ḥattaʾot, or “sins,” are.

According to Judaism, every single human being that has ever emerged from a uterus is born 100% free of “sin,” Jew and gentile alike. A person is not even capable of committing a sin until they have a complete and accurate understanding of the difference between right and wrong.

This is a far cry from chr-stianity which teaches that all human beings are born with the stain of “original sin” and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Nothing remotely similar to this concept has ever existed in Judaism. Each and every person has the choice to do what is good, or choose to do what is bad. So the choice is yours; choose to do what is good and you’re good to go, nothing else needed.
 

Jacob

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Yoḥanon-benYaʿăqov;5052488 said:
Asking a question such as “Are you without sin?” is somewhat problematic. To begin with, precisely how are you defining the word “sin?”

The Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines the Noun – sin as:
1 a: an offense against religious or moral law
b: an action that is, or is felt to be, highly reprehensible – “it’s a sin to waste food”
c: an often serious shortcoming: Fault

2 a: transgression of the law of God
b: a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from God

And defines the Verb – sin as:
1: to commit a sin
2: to commit an offense or fault

Unfortunately, none of these definitions have anything to do with any of the Hebrew Nouns or Verbs translated as “sin.”

The Verbs – חֵטא ḥétʾ and – חָטָא ḥataʾ both mean: “to miss the mark,” “to fall short,” “to err,” etc. The Masculine Noun – חֶטְאָה ḥet’ah and the Feminine Noun – חַטָּאת ḥattaʾt both mean: “accident,” “error,” “inadvertence,” “mistake,” “shortcoming,” etc.

Think of it this way: You are an expert archer and you hit everything you aim at every single time. One day while shooting an arrow at the bulls-eye of a target a sudden gust of wind blows your arrow off target. Had it not been for that unforeseen occurrence you would have hit the bulls-eye, but do to circumstances outside of your control you missed.

That is precisely what a ḥattaʾt is: an accident, mistake or error. It is when you accidentally violate a Mitz’vah without even knowing that you are doing it. So the question here is: Can you live without accidentally violating a Mitz’vah?

For gentiles the answer is very simple: Yes you absolutely can live without accidentally violating a Mitz’vah. This is because it is impossible to accidentally violate any of the Sh’vaʿ Mitz’vot b’néy Noaḥ. You cannot accidentally commit idolatry; you cannot accidentally blaspheme; you cannot accidentally commit murder; you cannot accidentally steal; you cannot accidentally perform an illegal sex act; you cannot accidentally eat the meat of an animal with its life (blood) in it; you cannot accidentally not set up courts of justice.

For Jews it is a little more complicated, because Jews have 606 more Mitz’vot to follow than gentiles. There are a great many Mitz’vot that can be violated accidentally. For example: You can accidentally open the refrigerator door on Shabbat out of force of habit.

The bigger question should concern whether or not a person can live without committing any – עֲווֹנֹת ʿăvonot or – פְּשָׁעִים p’shaʿiym, which are willful and intentional violations of Mitz’vot. You have to actively choose to commit these types of offenses. You cannot accidentally become a serial murderer or a serial rapist. So can a person live without committing these offenses? Absolutely, just don’t do them, it is exactly that simple.

A ḥattaʾt or “sin,” is a mistake, error or accident, things that we normally have no control over. Have you ever made a mistake on a math test, or a spelling test, or a science test? I am not talking about answering a question incorrectly simply because you did not know the correct answer. I am talking about accidentally writing the incorrect answer when you actually knew the correct answer. Circumstances such as these are precisely what ḥattaʾot, or “sins,” are.

According to Judaism, every single human being that has ever emerged from a uterus is born 100% free of “sin,” Jew and gentile alike. A person is not even capable of committing a sin until they have a complete and accurate understanding of the difference between right and wrong.

This is a far cry from chr-stianity which teaches that all human beings are born with the stain of “original sin” and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Nothing remotely similar to this concept has ever existed in Judaism. Each and every person has the choice to do what is good, or choose to do what is bad. So the choice is yours; choose to do what is good and you’re good to go, nothing else needed.
Shalom.

Thank you. I choose to do what is good.

Shalom.

Jacob
 
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