Saved Is Temporary-Salvation Is Eternal

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SAVED IS TEMPORARY-SALVATION IS ETERNAL
Eph 2:4-10
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,
5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),
6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
Eph 2:11-15
11 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh-- who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands--
12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.
13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation,
15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,
Rom 3:21-24
21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets,
22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference;
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
Rom 4:1
1 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh?
Rom 3:23-24
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
Rom 3:24-26
24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed,
26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
Gal 5:17
17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
John 14:16-18
16 "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever--
17 "the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
18 "I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
John 16:13-14
13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
14 "He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
John 16:4-12
4 "But these things I have told you, that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you of them. And these things I did not say to you at the beginning, because I was with you.
5 "But now I go away to Him who sent Me, and none of you asks Me, 'Where are You going?'
6 "But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart.
7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.
8 "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 "of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
10 "of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;
11 "of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
12 "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
Phil 2:12-15
12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.
14 Do all things without complaining and disputing,
15 that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world,
Jude 1:5
5 But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
James 1:22-25
22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.
23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror;
24 for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was.
25 But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
James 2:17-18
17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.
James 2:24
24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
James 2:26
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
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xxx Without Christ you belong to satan. And if you turn to Christ satan will come after you. But because you turned to Christ God will save you while you are working out your salvation with Christ.
 

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If one is saved temporarily in the New Testament with Jesus then they don't know what they're talking about. It sounds like something you would say in the Old Testament when they did animal sacrifices annually. But if you read Hebrews 10 you will see Jesus' work saved us forever and ever. His atonement is eternal while animal sacrifices were not. What then is the difference between salvation and saved? They both mean the same thing as far as a Christian goes. If you aren't saved then you are condemned. If you are saved then you are saved. If you think you have to work out something still while being saved then you are living in a delusion of your own making. Maybe there is some issue you have to work out. Do you have sin in your heart? Did you know Jesus saved us from our sins? I was saying that sarcastically as I know your stance on this subject already.

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God has saved his people before and then destroyed them because they wouldn't believe Him.

Jude 1:5
5 But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
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I'm saved and sealed Ephesians 1:13 KJV -

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ROFLOL One verse. I have to wonder if all we need is one verse, why did God put all them other verses in there????
Now lets look at the first two words. In Him. Are you in Him? No one can be in Him until they have crucified all their emotions. Because you cant belong to Christ until you have done that.

Eph 1:13
13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
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Gal 5:24-25
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
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ROFLOL One verse. I have to wonder if all we need is one verse, why did God put all them other verses in there????
Now lets look at the first two words. In Him. Are you in Him? No one can be in Him until they have crucified all their emotions. Because you cant belong to Christ until you have done that.

Eph 1:13
13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
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Gal 5:24-25
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
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One is enough.
 

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One is enough.

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lol Word games. If one was enough you couldn't believe in the trinity.

1 Cor 4:6
6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
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You keep changing the rules to benefit yourself. Why don't you try to go by Gods rules and join us in Christianity.
 

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No their not. Saved is temporary. We need it while we work out our salvation which is eternal. I posted a revelation on it. You should go read it.

The solution to the problem of some saved people falling away is not that saved and salvation are different but that some wear the uniform of the saved but are not in the army and some day their lack of saving faith will be exposed.

Sheep are not goats and all sheep, true members of His flock, also called GOD's legitimate children (not reprobates which word can mean counterfeit, good looking fakes), WILL RETURN to their Shepherd while the goats are condemned already.
 

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The solution to the problem of some saved people falling away is not that saved and salvation are different but that some wear the uniform of the saved but are not in the army and some day their lack of saving faith will be exposed.

Sheep are not goats and all sheep, true members of His flock, also called GOD's legitimate children (not reprobates which word can mean counterfeit, good looking fakes), WILL RETURN to their Shepherd while the goats are condemned already.

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The problem is the counterfeit don't know they are counterfeit.
 

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Repentance is a state of mind.

2 Pet 3:9
9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
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One is only saved so that they can work out their salvation. And that takes time. Three years in the milk understanding, eleven years in the meat understanding. That is to be born again. Then you have the revelations of Jesus Christ.
 

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One must go through the three years of the milk understanding to find the Holy Spirit. Then one must follow the Holy Spirit for eleven years to come to Jesus.
 
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