Same sex marriages are all null, according to Christians
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Marriage can only be between a man and a woman. Homosexuality is a sin. Homosexual sin is punishable by death.
Shalom.
Jacob
As are all mortals regardless of their sin.
Jesus is not judging unbelievers at this time.
Unbelievers will have their opportunity for eternal life.
Pray for them.
I suppose I do not have a definition for sin, beyond it being the transgression of the law, or lawlessness. I say this because the penalty, outcome, or consequence of sin is death. But if someone steals something, the Torah describes how to make that right. My understanding is that there is no death penalty here. So, I know if this is sin or if it is considered sin, there is sin that does not lead to or result in death as a penalty or punishment beyond saying that the result or outcome of sin is death, since Adam and Eve. I do not know why you say mortals.
I do not know why you say that Jesus is not judging unbelievers at this time. I do not know why you say that unbelievers will have their opportunity for eternal life. It is important to pray for other people. I do not know about praying for believers or unbelievers, in regard to sin or not.
Shalom.
Jacob
Civil marriage occurs legally between two men, between two women, and between one man and one woman. And just like a civilly divorced person, whose original marriage was valid, and whose original spouse still lives, who marries another, is also in a null marriage, so are two women or two men who are civilly married. Christians consider all these marriages null, and therefore any sexual behavior between these spouses is grave sin.
Grave sin when committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent is mortal/fatal sin.
Their opportunity is now. Catholics and others pray to the Lord, "Lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy."
No such thing, biblically, as "mortal" sin, or "fatal" sin. The RCO taught you that-you learned it from them. The LORD God,in his book, never did/will.
Jose Fly
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So what? Surely you haven't fooled yourself into thinking that same-sex couples are saying "Christians believe our marriage is null? Oh noes!!!"
I mean, if I told you that Hindus don't see Christian marriages as valid, would you care?
Jose Fly
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And apparently not all Christians share this anti-gay sentiment.
Wisconsin priest tells parishioners he's gay, gets ovation
Wisconsin priest tells parishioners he's gay, gets ovation
genuineoriginal
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Those "Christians" don't know Jesus and Jesus does not know them.
Matthew 7:21-23 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. |
Jose Fly
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And as with the OP, I'm sure those folks also don't care about your opinion of them.
genuineoriginal
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It doesn't matter whether they care about my opinion of them.
It does matter that they don't care about Jesus' opinion of them.
Jose Fly
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Who said they don't care about Jesus' opinion? AFAIK, you're not Jesus.....right?
You call this marriage and say that Christians consider these to be null. I do not know what you mean by grave sin, mortal/fatal sin.
Shalom.
Jacob
Absolutely. I was raised Protestant. I certainly learned about mortal sin from the Roman church. 1st John 5:16-17 KJV "sin unto death" there, not "mortal sin." It helped clear things up for me, learning about mortal sin.
Yet here you are.
'm just making it clear.
Start the thread and we'll see.
There's no anti-gay sentiment in that story. :idunno:
Sin deserving of the death penalty is grave. Grave sin committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent is mortal or fatal sin. If a Christian commits mortal sin they kill the love in their heart. If a Catholic commits grave sin they are not welcome in Communion.
Are you ignoring the Great Day?
Why?
"But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished." (Revelation 20:5)
The grave symbolizes death.
All sins are grave, but we are appointed to die once anyway.
Paul said, "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Romans 6:23)
Do Catholics agree with any of Paul's writings?