reconciliation

heir

TOL Subscriber
Reconciliation is bringing two parties together by solving the problem that caused them to be separated. It denotes change: change from enemies to friends.


2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
2 Corinthians 5:15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

2 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

We can see from verse 18 and elsewhere in Paul’s epistles that the hostility we may have had for God and being “enemies” was on us and not God as He (God) reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ. Take a look:

Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

If when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son; then the death of His Son is what solved the problem that had previously caused us to be separated. In Christ, God was reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their (our) trespasses unto them (us) so that the world could be reconciled to God!

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

So what does this mean for you as an unsaved individual? It means you can be saved! No matter who you are, where you’ve been or what you were doing while you were there: God will save you when you trust that when Christ died for our sins and that He was buried and rose again the third day, He was doing that for your salvation! Paul declares the gospel of Christ as the gospel by which we are saved:

1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1 Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Paul writes that the gospel of Christ (above) is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16-17 KJV although no longer to the Jew first and also to the Greek, but to all men as testified in due time 1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV). Paul writes that we are fellowheirs and of the same Body and partakers of God’s promise in Christ by the gospel.

Ephesians 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

That tells us that it’s not by anything that we had to do, have to do, will do or have to stop doing as the religious loons around the world (and TOL) will tell you (2 Corinthians 11:13-15 KJV), but BY THE GOSPEL!

That is the good news of reconciliation!

Romans 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
 

Zeke

Well-known member
Yep these two conflicting natures dramatized by two individuals through scripture allegorically teach that inward conflict Romans 7:18, and until they are reconciled 1Cor 13:1-13, one will be double minded Galatians 4:24-26, 1Cor 15:45, the first born comes through a earthly woman Matt 11:11 the second a Divine seed is still in the womb waiting it's birth when faith awakens Luke 15:17, which is a state of Divine sleep called death like a fallen seed John 12:24, Jesus representing that scattered seed that is buried in each first born of the flesh in a state of Divine amnesia.
 

Interplanner

Well-known member
Reconciliation is bringing two parties together by solving the problem that caused them to be separated. It denotes change: change from enemies to friends.


2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
2 Corinthians 5:15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

2 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

We can see from verse 18 and elsewhere in Paul’s epistles that the hostility we may have had for God and being “enemies” was on us and not God as He (God) reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ. Take a look:

Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

If when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son; then the death of His Son is what solved the problem that had previously caused us to be separated. In Christ, God was reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their (our) trespasses unto them (us) so that the world could be reconciled to God!

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

So what does this mean for you as an unsaved individual? It means you can be saved! No matter who you are, where you’ve been or what you were doing while you were there: God will save you when you trust that when Christ died for our sins and that He was buried and rose again the third day, He was doing that for your salvation! Paul declares the gospel of Christ as the gospel by which we are saved:

1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1 Corinthians 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Paul writes that the gospel of Christ (above) is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16-17 KJV although no longer to the Jew first and also to the Greek, but to all men as testified in due time 1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV). Paul writes that we are fellowheirs and of the same Body and partakers of God’s promise in Christ by the gospel.

Ephesians 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

That tells us that it’s not by anything that we had to do, have to do, will do or have to stop doing as the religious loons around the world (and TOL) will tell you (2 Corinthians 11:13-15 KJV), but BY THE GOSPEL!

That is the good news of reconciliation!

Romans 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.



I think the 2 Cor 5 passage about reconciliation should be read more in the sense of accounting and bookkeeping than of friendship breakdown. That is why the essence of what was done in Christ was imputing, reckoning, transferring of funds/value from a 3rd party to help an indebted party. The hostility thing has a way of making all parties seem equal to begin with. But Paul knew otherwise: if one died for all, all were dead. That's not an equal start!
 

Interplanner

Well-known member
Yep these two conflicting natures dramatized by two individuals through scripture allegorically teach that inward conflict Romans 7:18, and until they are reconciled 1Cor 13:1-13, one will be double minded Galatians 4:24-26, 1Cor 15:45, the first born comes through a earthly woman Matt 11:11 the second a Divine seed is still in the womb waiting it's birth when faith awakens Luke 15:17, which is a state of Divine sleep called death like a fallen seed John 12:24, Jesus representing that scattered seed that is buried in each first born of the flesh in a state of Divine amnesia.



Zeke,
the reconciling of 2 Cor 5 is not about a person's inner problems, nor is it an analogy, nor is it the analogy of Gal 4 which is specifically about the conflict between the Gospel community and Judaism.

Stay within the passage and fully develop the meaning. Don't leave for other favorite passages so quickly.
 

Zeke

Well-known member
Zeke,
the reconciling of 2 Cor 5 is not about a person's inner problems, nor is it an analogy, nor is it the analogy of Gal 4 which is specifically about the conflict between the Gospel community and Judaism.

Stay within the passage and fully develop the meaning. Don't leave for other favorite passages so quickly.

The physical is the playground of the conscience mind, the covenants spoke of in Galatians that Paul is speaking about all transpires in the mind of man, the temple made without hands, which is exactly where Jacob wrestled within Gen 32:30 and was renamed Israel, which in the story pluralized into a nation later which replays out the same drama.

The Jew and Gentile are only a dramatic role played out in the scripture that teaches about the transformation from the lower mind to the higher mind, each state is played out by earthly and heavenly parentage and siblings yet they are about every temple of God that walks in this first born kingdom of the flesh.

The spirit always speaks of the inner mans kingdom, the temples kingdoms of scripture deal with that kingdom which isn't observable to the carnal mind Luke 17:20-21, Gen 32:30 etc...
 

heir

TOL Subscriber
Yep these two conflicting natures dramatized by two individuals through scripture allegorically teach that inward conflict Romans 7:18, and until they are reconciled 1Cor 13:1-13, one will be double minded Galatians 4:24-26, 1Cor 15:45, the first born comes through a earthly woman Matt 11:11 the second a Divine seed is still in the womb waiting it's birth when faith awakens Luke 15:17, which is a state of Divine sleep called death like a fallen seed John 12:24, Jesus representing that scattered seed that is buried in each first born of the flesh in a state of Divine amnesia.
:AMR:
 

George Affleck

TOL Subscriber
Heir,

I am afraid this concept you outlined so well is too beautiful for the average to appreciate. This is why there are so few comments.

Just wanted you to know I appreciate you bringing it to our attention. Reconciliation is, indeed, what Jesus' mission accomplished for those who will trust Him.
 
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