Lordkalvan
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A pity you fall flat on your face (figuratively) when trying to understand how that happened and what it means, then.
Real Science Radio: The Search for Noah's Ark
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Lordkalvan
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So we're agreed that Stripe was wrong when he offered 'Johan's Ark' in response to fool's comment that 'No one has a working full size replica [of the biblical Ark], even today.'
It seems to have taken you a long time to realise this, but then as Stripe (intentionally?) modified what fool wrote when he supposedly quoted him maybe it's not entirely your fault?
Is that even relevant to the discussion between you and I?
Lordkalvan
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I thought the point was whether 'Johan's Ark' is a replica of the biblical Ark as claimed by Stripe. If not, perhaps you should explain what you think we are discussing?
Yes, that was the issue; not whether or not it was a full size replica. I don't care about that. Take that up with Stripe.
Lordkalvan
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Well, clearly it was neither 'full size' nor a 'replica' in any full sense of the word.
Do you care that it isn't a a replica at all? What is it anything more than a carnival sideshow that bears about as much relevance to actual history as Mickey Mouse to a real rodent?
You might have noticed that trying to take anything up with Stripe is pretty much an exercise in futility. You, at least, are ready to engage and kudos to you for that.
OK people, a little more searching and Johan has completed the full version, also built on barges;
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-sty...t-build-full-scale-noah-ark-article-1.1217581
This is not a boat people, it's a tourist attraction built on a floating platform. He wants to bring it to America but;
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-sty...t-build-full-scale-noah-ark-article-1.1217581
This is not a boat people, it's a tourist attraction built on a floating platform. He wants to bring it to America but;
So it's not seaworthy.The ARTICLE said:
Lordkalvan
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Undoubtedly a replica, though.
That's not overly relevant. The original ark was a nonpowered vessel as is this one. Of course it requires assistance to move anywhere.
From the looks of the replica, it floats very high in the water. Undoubtedly the water of the flood was used to provide much of the ark's protection against the elements by having it float almost completely submerged.
Lordkalvan
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Yep, built on a steel barge, too.
It doesn't float at all, the barge does that.
I'd be pleased to see your evidence for that.
Lordkalvan
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Unsurprisingly, there appears to be none forthcoming.
"Gopher wood" is translated in the Septuagint as:
15 Make therefore for thyself an ark of square timber; thou shalt make the ark in compartments, and thou shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
16 And thus shalt thou make the ark; three hundred cubits the length of the ark, and fifty cubits the breadth, and thirty cubits the height of it.
17 Thou shalt narrow the ark in making it, and in a cubit above thou shalt finish it, and the door of the ark thou shalt make on the side; with lower, second, and third stories thou shalt make it.
18 And behold I bring a flood of water upon the earth, to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life under heaven, and whatsoever things are upon the earth shall die.
Can't be sure of the exact meaning. But could reflect that the wood was to be planed (flat instead of log like).16 And thus shalt thou make the ark; three hundred cubits the length of the ark, and fifty cubits the breadth, and thirty cubits the height of it.
17 Thou shalt narrow the ark in making it, and in a cubit above thou shalt finish it, and the door of the ark thou shalt make on the side; with lower, second, and third stories thou shalt make it.
18 And behold I bring a flood of water upon the earth, to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life under heaven, and whatsoever things are upon the earth shall die.
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