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Grosnick Marowbe

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Luke 17:20-21 is the same teaching of the Kingdom of GOD based on Christ within you/Gods temple that Paul taught through the Spirit/Christ Galatians 1:12 4:28 that isn't observed by carnal minds, and is only portrayed in allegorical/symbolic teaching inner truth Galatians 3:1-3. Acts the main/foundation that Mid Acts teaches from is suspect in areas that extrovert that invisible Kingdom into carnal nationalism that keeps the mind focused on separate distraction instead of reconciliation Luke 15:45 with you're own Divine parentage through the death (Matt 11:11) of ones old man/persona/student under the bondage of the elemental/observational/emotional five senses Galatians 4:1-9, John 1:9, Philippians 2:5-8.

Say what??
 

meshak

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You guys don't seem to know that Jesus is the Lord and the Judge. Jesus was given authority to Judge by His
Father.

Here is what Jesus says:

John 17
1After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: "Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.

2For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him.
 

meshak

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Here is more about Jesus being the Judge:

John 5:
25I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. 26For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself. 27And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.
 

andyc

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His earthly ministry was to call out a Jewish priesthood through whom the Gentiles would come to him.
It's all in prophecy, if you dare to read it and believe it.

Why are you relying on your OT prophecy interpretation?
Why not actually show it stated in the NT?
 

andyc

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Atheist Carl Sagan and (according to Sagan) Thomas Jefferson correctly saw there was a major distinction:



Close to 100% of Christendom cannot see what even a blind, God-rejecting atheist was able to see.

At least the majority of Christians understand that Carl Sagan was not an atheist. Sagan even said that atheism is stupid.
 

andyc

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Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

That's not you or me!

Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

Ephesians 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

The good things pertaining to the gospel of the kingdom could not be accessed through the terms and conditions of the old covenant. Everything pertaining the gospel of the kingdom had to be accessed by faith, and although Jesus was sent to the Jewish people, gentiles could also receive from Jesus if they put a faith demand on him.
It was the apostles job to take the gospel of the kingdom to the Samaritans and gentiles (Mat 24:14).
 

andyc

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That is candyandycain's best shot-"I think it means.....," with no "connecting the dots," as I brilliantly/humbly did here:


http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?116370-The-Bible-is-a-book-of-details-contrasts

Yeah I skimmed through it. So who'd ya copy it off this time? LOL
Anyway, the simple point to make, which was actually mentioned in your flowery thesis, is that faith put a demand on God. Gentiles may have legally been strangers from the Abrahamic covenant with physical Israel, but Jesus was preaching about the kingdom of heaven. None of the blessing in this gospel can be accessed by anything other than faith. Faith is no respecter of persons. When gentiles approached Jesus in faith, they got what they asked for. Not because of kindness towards Israel, but because they were in faith.
 

meshak

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When gentiles approached Jesus in faith, they got what they asked for. Not because of kindness towards Israel, but because they were in faith.

Yes. God does not play favoritism. It was and is always about faithfulness. God did not bless Israel when they were disobedient. It is the same after Jesus only Jesus made it simple and clear about it.

and it is more of individual bases rather than nations.

God's kingdom is for everyone who believes in God and Jesus.
 

musterion

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At least the majority of Christians understand that Carl Sagan was not an atheist. Sagan even said that atheism is stupid.

You're only partly right.

Sagan had sound objections to the "hard" absolutist atheism that's a popular fad today; that was to his credit. But as an agnostic he was a practical atheist -- someone who may acknowledge the possible existence of God but still lives his life as if He does not exist. All agnostics are practical atheists. That was Sagan; he had no use for the God of the Bible or for His Christ.

Now feel free to address how a practical atheist (two, if we count Jefferson) can see the clear distinction in the Bible that you can't.
 
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