Preaching the Gospel !

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OZOS

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"Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live." John 5:25

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek." Rom 1:16


Any attempt to remove man's response to the message of the gospel makes the gospel powerless.
 

Right Divider

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"Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live." John 5:25

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek." Rom 1:16

Any attempt to remove man's response to the message of the gospel makes the gospel powerless.

You're talking to a couple of dead people that cannot hear.

According to their theory, there is actually no need to preach the gospel at all. Since God had already chosen who will be saved and who will be damned before the world was created. Every single action of man is pointless and irrelevant in this regard.
 

Nanja

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You're talking to a couple of dead people that cannot hear.

According to their theory, there is actually no need to preach the gospel at all. Since God had already chosen who will be saved and who will be damned before the world was created. Every single action of man is pointless and irrelevant in this regard.



The true Gospel of God's Grace speaks to how His Grace was given to all His Elect in Christ Jesus, their Covenant Head and Mediator, before the world began Titus 1:2; 2 Tim. 1:9.

It wasn't offered or just made available to them; but Given!


Now when His Sons are born in time, Father will draw them John 6:44; make them Spiritually Alive in New Birth 1 Pet. 1:3, and they are led by the Spirit to Come to Christ.


Rom 8:14-17

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
 

beloved57

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Amen Brother, absolutely True !

The natural man [not born again John 3:3] has not been given Faith Gal. 5:22, so he cannot hear Gospel Truth Rom. 10:17;

For one must be born of God [made spiritually alive] to hear God's Words.


John 8:43, 47

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.


The natural man cannot receive the things of God.

1 Cor. 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Bless you Sister for fellowship in the Truth . I thank God for you 🙏
 

beloved57

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The true Gospel of God's Grace speaks to how His Grace was given to all His Elect in Christ Jesus, their Covenant Head and Mediator, before the world began Titus 1:2; 2 Tim. 1:9.

It wasn't offered or just made available to them; but Given!


Now when His Sons are born in time, Father will draw them John 6:44; make them Spiritually Alive in New Birth 1 Pet. 1:3, and they are led by the Spirit to Come to Christ.


Rom 8:14-17

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Absolutely true 😀
 

KerimF

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Concerning the today’s preaching of Jesus message (on the Gospel), I have noticed; so please correct anything I may say and doesn’t look true or real to you:

[1] There is no ruling system in the world (religious or political) whose law considers the printing of the Gospel (on paper or as electronic book) as a crime for which the doer deserves a certain punishment.

[2] All ruling systems in the world (religious and political) don’t allow repeating openly and clearly (via satellite TV channels) many sayings of Jesus, exactly as Jesus does on the Gospel. The reason is simple. Many Jesus sayings contradict clearly what the men in charge of any of these formal systems try convincing their common people. Couldn’t you guess one of these sayings? :)
 

Nanja

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The Gospel of the Kingdom !

Matt 24:14

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

The Gospel of the Kingdom or of the New Creation 2 Cor 5:17

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

What is this Gospel of the Kingdom ? This is a Gospel [when regarding Salvation] that is directed to men and women who are in the Spiritual Kingdom of Christ by New Birth or translation Col 1:13

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Again, that is if it is to be the Gospel of their Salvation Eph 1:13 or otherwise it is a message of Death 2 Cor 2:15-16

15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:

16 To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?

The Gospel of the Kingdom contains Truths that only those born spiritually in Christ kingdom will be able to see or understand Jn 3:3

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Matt 13:23,19

23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

In Vs 19 it is called this:

19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom

1 Cor 2:14

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

And to deny that one must have to some degree a level of understanding to receive or believe the Gospel, does contradict Matt 13:23

Now this does not mean that one will understand everything of the Gospel all at once, but it does mean, that whatever portion of Gospel Truth that God hath been pleased to send one by His Providence, that they have been spiritually compacted to receive that their portion of meat in due season Lk 12:42

And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?

And from that point onward, Christ will continue to Shepherd them with His Truth by the Power of the Holy Spirit working in them 1 Jn 2:20,27

20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.


27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.



Amen Brother !

The Gospel of the Kingdom Mat. 24:14 is exclusively for those who have been Birthed into the Kingdom of God by the Holy Ghost.


John 3:3, 5

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
 

Nanja

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The Gospel of the Kingdom !

Matt 24:14

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

The Gospel of the Kingdom, as it is for [ Salvation] a Gospel suited only for those birthed or translated into the Kingdom of God or of His Son Per Jn 3:3

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Col 1:12-13

12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

So it is with the Gospel of the New Creation 2 Cor 5:17, it is a Gospel suited only for those who are translated into the Kingdom of Christ, those who hath passed from death to life Jn 5:24 !

Its a Gospel suited only for those who are newly Created men as here Eph 4:24

24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Yes, when old things have passed away, and all things become New, A New Covenant, and the Gospel of the New Creation is proclaimed here in 2 Cor 5:19,20

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

And the Call of that Gospel to the Kingdom or New Creation citizens is Vs 20

20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Mind you, this call is restricted to those who are already New Creations or of the New Creation or Men Created New Eph 4:24 ! It is an imperative call to only the redeemed, reconciled, born again, New Creatures in Christ, and only them will be able to understand the Gospel of Reconciliation or the witnessed word of Reconciliation 2 Cor 5:19-21 !

To all others, this Gospel of the New Creation or the Kingdom will be perverted by them, or denied and rejected !


Absolutely True My Brother !
 

Nanja

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Is the Gospel, the things of God ? cont

As we continue the thought of Lk 1:77, the knowledge here is a Spiritual Knowledge that brings experiential knowledge by Spiritual comprehension, which is only possible by having been given already the Spirit of God !

Now notice in 1 Cor 2:13a

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Which things we speak ! The Gospel things he spake ! Now what are the things the Apostle has been speaking to the Corinthians ? Its the Word of the Gospel; for Jesus told Paul in a vision to speak the Word to them because He had much People [to be converted] in that city Acts 18:9-10

9 Then spake the Lord to Paul in the night by a vision, Be not afraid, but speak, and hold not thy peace:

10 For I am with thee, and no man shall set on thee to hurt thee: for I have much people in this city.

That same word speak is used in 1 Cor 2:6,7,13

Hence this proves that the Gospel is considered " the things of God" and so considered, before it can be believed or received it must be revealed to us by the Spirit ! We must be already given by New Birth a Spiritual capacity to comprehend the things of God !


Perfectly stated Brother;

TY and Amen to parts #304 and #305 !
 

Nanja

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Bless you Sister. Also To believe the report of the Gospel, it must be revealed Isa 53:1

Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?


Exactly Brother, and Bless you too !

The Gospel, The Report Is. 53:1 is hid to them that are lost 2 Cor. 4:3.

So consequently, it, is only revealed to those who have already been Saved and given the Fruit of Faith Gal. 5:22 in New Birth,
that are of the Truth 2 Thess. 2:13 [chosen / elect], and which are Made Spiritually able to believe The Report / Gospel which is Spiritual.

And it is these exclusively, to whom the Arm of the Lord: His Strength, Might or Power, is revealed.

1 Cor. 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
 

beloved57

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Exactly Brother, and Bless you too !

The Gospel, The Report Is. 53:1 is hid to them that are lost 2 Cor. 4:3.

So consequently, it, is only revealed to those who have already been Saved and given the Fruit of Faith Gal. 5:22 in New Birth,
that are of the Truth 2 Thess. 2:13 [chosen / elect], and which are Made Spiritually able to believe The Report / Gospel which is Spiritual.

And it is these exclusively, to whom the Arm of the Lord: His Strength, Might or Power, is revealed.

1 Cor. 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

Exactly Sister. And We can Say Christ is the Arm of the Lord, or the Power of God 1 Cor 1:24

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
 

Nanja

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Exactly Sister. And We can Say Christ is the Arm of the Lord, or the Power of God 1 Cor 1:24

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.


Amen Brother:

Eph. 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
 

Nanja

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Perversion of the Gospel ! 2

Now another perversion of the Gospel is that of the denial of unconditional Election. The most popular perversion is that Election is dependent upon God knowing who will believe on Christ, however such a perversion contradicts the scriptures clear teaching here in Rom 9:11

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth )

This cancels any ideal that God's Purpose of Election is contingent upon God's knowledge of or foreseeing of anything man may do as good that is the reason why God included them in His Purpose of Election.

God here through His faithful Servant Paul teaches unconditional Election by Illustration of the not yet born brothers Jacob and Esau ! God makes it abundantly clear that His Purpose of Election was not based upon any good doings that Jacob done. Jacob did not believe anything to become one of the Elect, he did nothing ! Now this is also the case with all the election of Grace, for their Election was in Christ before the foundation of the world; God the Father then chose them for Himself who was in Christ;and this in the same way that He chose that Jacob would be in Rebecca, he being in her as an elect was not his choice, nor his decision,but strictly done by the purpose of God. Hence Election cannot be premised upon one's faith or believing in Christ, and for ungodly men to teach otherwise is a flat out denial of Salvation by Grace, for that is what Unconditional Election of Grace is, Salvation by Grace through Faith, not of works !

So in reality we deny Unconditional Election, we deny Salvation by Grace, which is a basic fundamental Gospel Doctrine. Once we charge God with being unjust for Electing some by Grace to Salvation and witholding that Electing Grace from others, we then make Grace to be a debt owed, which is contrary to Grace Rom 4:4

Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

Election is of Grace Rom 11:5-6

5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.


Amen to parts 1 and 2; #327 and 328:

Accurately and eloquently stated Brother, Glory to God !
 

Nanja

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1 Cor 2:12 cont

Now Two things are imperative to know and believe the Gospel; #1. We need to have received the Spirit of God via New Birth 1 Cor 2:12

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

When Jesus said this to His disciples Jn 20:22

And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:


He meant not only them exclusively, but the entire Church, His whole Body that should believe on Him through their word ! So it is written also Jn 7:39

(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified

When He was Glorified, He received of the Father the Holy Ghost to shed abroad His Body the Church Mystical. Acts 2:33

Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted[and Glorified now], and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.


The world for whom He did not die Jn 17:9 cannot receive this Spirit John 14:17

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Jesus here is speaking to the disciples as Representatives of His Church, His Body !

And so to believe and know the Gospel we must receive the Spirit ! And then next, to believe and know the Gospel it must be revealed to us by the Spirit that has been given through New Birth.

These things are no more than what Jesus said here Jn 3:3

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see[discern] the kingdom of God.

The Kingdom of God, and its Gospel ! That word see here in Jn 3:3 is the same word know in 1 Cor 2:12 ! So Paul and Jesus agree !

Not having the Spirit by New Birth, and not having the Gospel Revealed to us by that Spirit of New Birth, there is no believing the Gospel !


Precisely Brother !
 

Nanja

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Reasons for New Birth before Faith !

One of the reasons one needs to be born again in order to believe the Gospel, its because within,the deep things of God are proclaimed !

The deep things of God have to do with His Counsels,things deep and involve the Mind of God. Paul is referring to the Gospel of God's Grace when He writes in Acts, Acts 20:24-27

24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.

26 Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men.

27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.

The counsel of His Own Will in His Chosen Salvation Eph 1:11-13

11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Paul here is rehearsing the Things He Preached in the Gospel of their Salvation. Remember, Paul was speaking to the Ephesian Elders in Acts 20:24-27. So when He said to them when Preaching the Gospel of God's Grace, He did not shun to declare all the Counsel of God, then He meant what he wrote in Eph 1:11, this confirms that what He wrote in that Epistle Chapters 1-3 pertained to the Gospel of God's Grace or of His Kingdom !

Included in these deep things of God,the counsels of predestination and election were included Eph 1:3-6,and these are things that the Gospel reveals, and so must the Spirit 1 Cor 2:6-14


6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.


14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Paul here is speaking of the Gospel, The Wisdom of God in a Mystery !

This Gospel, this Wisdom of God in a Mystery is not received by or cannot be understood by the Natural Man !


Amen Brother to this God Glorifying Preaching of the Gospel of God's Grace:

Reasons for New Birth before Faith !
 
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