Preaching the Gospel !

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beloved57

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We have not believed the Gospel of Jesus Christ if we have believed the popular error of our day that Jesus Christ died for one and all without exception, and now He patiently awaits to see if one will make a decision to get saved. That is error, for Christ died for and only came to save a large but specific group, which are Gods Elect People Matt 1:21, or His Sheep Jn 10:11,15 or they are called His Church Eph 5:25, or those the Father hath given Him Jn 17:2. Even the name Jesus itself means Jehovah Saves ! We don't preach the Gospel without knowing this ! And His purpose is to save a specific people.
 

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We have not believed the Gospel of Jesus Christ if we have believed the popular error of our day that Jesus Christ died for one and all without exception, and now He patiently awaits to see if one will make a decision to get saved. That is error, for Christ died for and only came to save a large but specific group, which are Gods Elect People Matt 1:21, or His Sheep Jn 10:11,15 or they are called His Church Eph 5:25, or those the Father hath given Him Jn 17:2. Even the name Jesus itself means Jehovah Saves ! We don't preach the Gospel without knowing this ! And His purpose is to save a specific people.

Your denomination is so silly, it makes God choose to put those He does like in Pharisaical positions, while making those He does like into prostitutes and thieving tax collectors. lol
You just don't get it.
 

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Based upon Matt 1:21 who shall Jesus save from their sins ?

His people are Jews who had faith and repented of their sins.

Jesus came first for them but said when he is crucified he will draw all to him.

All have a chance to be saved since Jesus died.

The Jews who did not have faith, they were cut off and hardened and bound to the same place as the rest of the world, so that God could have mercy on all.

Romans 11:32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
 

beloved57

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His people are Jews who had faith and repented of their sins.

Jesus came first for them but said when he is crucified he will draw all to him.

All have a chance to be saved since Jesus died.

The Jews who did not have faith, they were cut off and hardened and bound to the same place as the rest of the world, so that God could have mercy on all.

Romans 11:32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

False. You are basing Salvation on etnicity, the flesh#
 

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We have not believed the Gospel of Jesus Christ if we have believed the popular error of our day that Jesus Christ died for one and all without exception, and now He patiently awaits to see if one will make a decision to get saved. That is error, for Christ died for and only came to save a large but specific group, which are Gods Elect People Matt 1:21, or His Sheep Jn 10:11,15 or they are called His Church Eph 5:25, or those the Father hath given Him Jn 17:2. Even the name Jesus itself means Jehovah Saves ! We don't preach the Gospel without knowing this ! And His purpose is to save a specific people.


Amen! The people Jesus came to Save are His Body the Church, or His Sheep given Him of The Father.

They're an exclusive group of people Chosen in Christ to be One Flesh with Him from Eternity Eph. 5:30-32; He and they are One:

Heb. 2:11
For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

So Jesus coming into the world to be put to death for their sins was to identify with them only, the Seed of Abraham Heb. 2:16, whether jew or gentile, regardless of ethnicity. But definitely not all people without exception, for scripture declares that many shall die in their sins John 3:18; Rev. 21:8; Mat. 25:41; Prov. 16:4 whose father is not God John 8:44.
 

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We have not believed the Gospel of Jesus Christ if we have believed the popular error of our day that Jesus Christ died for one and all without exception, and now He patiently awaits to see if one will make a decision to get saved.

YES. THIS IS STANDARD CALVINIST ERROR, inferring this on Christians who do not say, believe or write such gibberish.

This is know as the straw man rabbit trail technique - or simply - Calvinism. NOT Christism or Chris-anything
 

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These are some of the major theological problems with Calvinism:

Calvinism denies man’s free will to obey or disobey God, which is the basis of man’s responsibility and accountability, as taught by the Bible: (Gen. 4:6-7; Deut. 11:26-28; 30:11-15, 19; Josh. 24:15; Jer. 38:20; Eze. 18:30; Acts 17:30-31);
 

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It is said that Jesus hates the sin but loves the sinner.

The calvinist says Jesus casts the sinner to hell, not the sin.

Calvinism denies the universal benevolence or love of God, which wants all sinners to repent and be saved as taught by the Bible: (Eze. 33:11; John 3:14-17; 2 Pet. 3:19);
 

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Calvinism denies the conditional security of believers or the possibility of falling away from the faith as taught by the Bible (Matt. 24:13; Jn. 15:6; Acts 11:23; Acts 13:43; Acts 14:22; Rom. 8:13; Rom. 11:20-21; 1 Cor. 9:27; Heb. 2:1-3; Heb. 10:26-31; 2 Pet. 2:20-21);
 

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Calvinism denies man’s role, responsibility, and choice to cooperate with God in regeneration or in the changing of his heart as taught by the Bible (Deut. 10:16; Eze. 18:30-32; Ps. 78:8; Ps. 95:8; Heb. 3:15; Act 7:51; 17:30-31; Jas. 4:8; Col. 3:9-10; Eph. 4:22, 24; 1 Tim. 4:16);
 

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Calvinism denies that man’s choice to repent of all his sins is a necessary condition of forgiveness, but rather teaches that justification by grace through faith is nothing more than justification in sin and impenitence (Antinomianism), as opposed to what the Bible teaches: (Isa. 55:7; Eze. 18:30; Prov. 28:13; Matt. 7:21; 19:17; Lk. 13:3; Acts 8:22; Rom. 2:5; 6:1-2; Titus 2:1112; Jude 1:4; Rev. 22:14).
 

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Calvinism denies the conditional security of believers or the possibility of falling away from the faith
Odd that you assume this is but a Calvinist perspective. Your denial of once saved, always saved (the Arminian standard view) or perseverance of the saints (the Calvinist view) puts you at odds with more than just is meanie Calvinists. :AMR:

Your jejune anti-Calvinist posts are telling.

AMR
 

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Odd that you assume this is but a Calvinist perspective. Your denial of once saved, always saved (the Arminian standard view) or perseverance of the saints (the Calvinist view) puts you at odds with more than just is meanie Calvinists. :AMR:

Your jejune anti-Calvinist posts are telling.

AMR

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You got banned again on CF!
 

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Odd that you assume this is but a Calvinist perspective. Your denial of once saved, always saved (the Arminian standard view) or perseverance of the saints (the Calvinist view) puts you at odds with more than just is meanie Calvinists. :AMR:

Your jejune anti-Calvinist posts are telling.

AMR

In reverse order:

I am not anti-calvinist. Rather I am pro-Christ. Thanks for the opportunity for that.

"the Arminian standard view". Oh, come on man. You can do better than that. Arminus was a Calvinist of his time (yes, it has evolved in many directions). Most Christians are NOT by default Arminians - another false charge rabbit trail.
 
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