Preaching the Gospel !

[God's Truth]

That not what those scriptures say. Read them again, slowly.

You do not understand those scriptures.

God gives everyone a measure of faith and He takes it all away from the one who does not do right with it and He increases the faith who does right.

Romans 12:3 For by the grace given to me, I tell everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he should think. Instead, think sensibly, as God has distributed a measure of faith to each one.

Matthew 25:29 For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them.

 

[Nanja]

You do not understand those scriptures.

God gives everyone a measure of faith and He takes it all away from the one who does not do right with it and He increases the faith who does right.

Romans 12:3 For by the grace given to me, I tell everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he should think. Instead, think sensibly, as God has distributed a measure of faith to each one.

Matthew 25:29 For whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them.

The only faith that pleases God is a fruit of the Spirit given to a person when they are Born of the Spirit Gal. 5:22.

Before that, no works he does can please God Rom. 8:8.

 

[God's Truth]

The only faith that pleases God is a fruit of the Spirit given to a person when they are Born of the Spirit Gal. 5:22.

Before that, no works he does can please God Rom. 8:8.

You are not speaking truth.

God gives to all a measure of faith and rewards all who search for Him when they search for Him with all their heart.

That is not Calvinism that is Scripture.

 

[Nanja]

You are not speaking truth.

God gives to all a measure of faith and rewards all who search for Him when they search for Him with all their heart.

That is not Calvinism that is Scripture.

The only Heart that seeks God is a New Heart God gives a person in New Birth Ezek. 36:26-27.

The natural man can only seek the god of his own understanding, but that's not the True God!

Rom. 3:11-12

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

 

[beloved57]

Who does God Call with the Gospel?

2 Thessalonians 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 tells us who it is that is called by the Apostles Gospel, Its them that have been sanctified by the Spirit unto Belief of the Truth, which is the Gospel!

 

[God's Truth]

Who does God Call with the Gospel?

2 Thessalonians 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 tells us who it is that is called by the Apostles Gospel, Its them that have been sanctified by the Spirit unto Belief of the Truth, which is the Gospel!

God calls all, and He chooses those who obey Him.

 

[beloved57]

God call all, and He chooses those who obey Him.

Evasion and false statement!

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[God's Truth]

The only Heart that seeks God is a New Heart God gives a person in New Birth Ezek. 36:26-27.

The natural man can only seek the god of his own understanding, but that's not the True God!

Rom. 3:11-12

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

You just ignore the scriptures that I give that prove you wrong.

You have turned a blind eye to the truth and chose to follow a mere sinful man called John Calvin.

 

[God's Truth]

The only Heart that seeks God is a New Heart God gives a person in New Birth Ezek. 36:26-27.

God says THOSE WHO OBEY BY REPENTING of their SINS get a new heart!


Ezekiel 18:31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel?

The natural man can only seek the god of his own understanding, but that's not the True God!

The natural man is about a man who ONLY lives to please his flesh.

NOT everyone only lives to please their flesh.

We are not just flesh people, we are also spirit.

Some people want more out of this life than merely pleasing their flesh.

Rom. 3:11-12

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Paul is quoting Psalm 14:1-3; 53:1-3; and Ecclesiastes 7:20. Ecclesiastes SAYS there is not a RIGHTEOUS man who does what is right and NEVER SINS. Ecclesiastes tells us that there ARE RIGHTEOUS men but none who NEVER sin. Paul is explaining that the Jews were sinners just like the Gentiles. Nowhere in these passages or scriptures anywhere does it say none can believe on their own. In this same Ecclesiastes 7, Solomon tells us about wise men, righteous men, and about a man who pleases God. Solomon also tells us that he found one upright man among a thousand. The Bible tells us that there are people who want to do right.

 

[Nanja]

God says THOSE WHO OBEY BY REPENTING of their SINS get a new heart!


Ezekiel 18:31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel?



The natural man is about a man who ONLY lives to please his flesh.

NOT everyone only lives to please their flesh.

We are not just flesh people, we are also spirit.

Some people want more out of this life than merely pleasing their flesh.



Paul is quoting Psalm 14:1-3; 53:1-3; and Ecclesiastes 7:20. Ecclesiastes SAYS there is not a RIGHTEOUS man who does what is right and NEVER SINS. Ecclesiastes tells us that there ARE RIGHTEOUS men but none who NEVER sin. Paul is explaining that the Jews were sinners just like the Gentiles. Nowhere in these passages or scriptures anywhere does it say none can believe on their own. In this same Ecclesiastes 7, Solomon tells us about wise men, righteous men, and about a man who pleases God. Solomon also tells us that he found one upright man among a thousand. The Bible tells us that there are people who want to do right.

I explained this to you before. In Ezek. 18:31 God is speaking to His Covenant People Israel, the same ones Christ was their Covenant Head and Surety Heb. 7:22 in the Everlasting Covenant of Grace, as David speaks of here:

2 Sam. 23:5
Although my house be not so with God; yet he hath made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things, and sure: for this is all my salvation, and all my desire, although he make it not to grow.

The same People God promised to give a New Heart and New Spirit Ezek. 36:26-27, and Repentance.

Acts 5:31
Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 11:18
When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

So you see, God-given Faith Phil. 1:29, Repentance results in a conversion experience for all those Christ shed His Blood for in the Everlasting Covenant of Grace.

But before a person is converted, Born of the Spirit, they are still in the flesh / carnal and cannot please God Rom. 8:8.

John 3:6-7

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.


And one more thing!

All men sin. But the Blessed ones Christ made Righteous Rom. 5:19; 5:9 by His Blood Rev. 13:8, no sin was ever imputed to them, but to their Surety instead from Everlasting Is. 53:6.

Rom. 4:6-8

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

 

[beloved57]

God says THOSE WHO OBEY BY REPENTING of their SINS get a new heart!


Ezekiel 18:31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel?



The natural man is about a man who ONLY lives to please his flesh.

NOT everyone only lives to please their flesh.

We are not just flesh people, we are also spirit.

Some people want more out of this life than merely pleasing their flesh.



Paul is quoting Psalm 14:1-3; 53:1-3; and Ecclesiastes 7:20. Ecclesiastes SAYS there is not a RIGHTEOUS man who does what is right and NEVER SINS. Ecclesiastes tells us that there ARE RIGHTEOUS men but none who NEVER sin. Paul is explaining that the Jews were sinners just like the Gentiles. Nowhere in these passages or scriptures anywhere does it say none can believe on their own. In this same Ecclesiastes 7, Solomon tells us about wise men, righteous men, and about a man who pleases God. Solomon also tells us that he found one upright man among a thousand. The Bible tells us that there are people who want to do right.

False comments not found in scripture !

 

[beloved57]

I explained this to you before. In Ezek. 18:31 God is speaking to His Covenant People Israel, the same ones Christ was their Covenant Head and Surety Heb. 7:22 in the Everlasting Covenant of Grace, as David speaks of here:

2 Sam. 23:5
Although my house be not so with God; yet he hath made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things, and sure: for this is all my salvation, and all my desire, although he make it not to grow.

The same People God promised to give a New Heart and New Spirit Ezek. 36:26-27, and Repentance.

Acts 5:31
Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 11:18
When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

So you see, God-given Faith Phil. 1:29, Repentance results in a conversion experience for all those Christ shed His Blood for in the Everlasting Covenant of Grace.

But before a person is converted, Born of the Spirit, they are still in the flesh / carnal and cannot please God Rom. 8:8.

John 3:6-7

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.


And one more thing!

All men sin. But the Blessed ones Christ made Righteous Rom. 5:19; 5:9 by His Blood Rev. 13:8, no sin was ever imputed to them, but to their Surety instead from Everlasting Is. 53:6.

Rom. 4:6-8

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

Amen Sister, you testified Truthfully with scripture ! Prov 12:19

The lip of truth shall be established for ever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment.

 

[God's Truth]

I explained this to you before. In Ezek. 18:31 God is speaking to His Covenant People Israel, the same ones Christ was their Covenant Head and Surety Heb. 7:22 in the Everlasting Covenant of Grace, as David speaks of here:

God does not speak truth to some and untruth to others.

2 Sam. 23:5
Although my house be not so with God; yet he hath made with me an everlasting covenant, ordered in all things, and sure: for this is all my salvation, and all my desire, although he make it not to grow.

The same People God promised to give a New Heart and New Spirit Ezek. 36:26-27, and Repentance.

Acts 5:31
Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Acts 11:18
When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

So you see, God-given Faith Phil. 1:29, Repentance results in a conversion experience for all those Christ shed His Blood for in the Everlasting Covenant of Grace.

But before a person is converted, Born of the Spirit, they are still in the flesh / carnal and cannot please God Rom. 8:8.

John 3:6-7

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.


And one more thing!

All men sin. But the Blessed ones Christ made Righteous Rom. 5:19; 5:9 by His Blood Rev. 13:8, no sin was ever imputed to them, but to their Surety instead from Everlasting Is. 53:6.

Rom. 4:6-8

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

No one will be saved unless they believe and obey.

That is what all the scriptures say and that is the Truth.

All scripture is the truth.

 

[God's Truth]

False comments not found in scripture !

Mere denial is no defense of the truth. All you have is denial to defend your false beliefs.

Common sense says that we have to obey God before we can be saved.

Even small child understand that we have to obey God.

No children understand your decrepit teachings.

It is to children that the truth has been revealed.

 

[beloved57]

Mere denial is no defense of the truth. All you have is denial to defend your false beliefs.

Common sense says that we have to obey God before we can be saved.

Even small child understand that we have to obey God.

No children understand your decrepit teachings.

It is to children that the truth has been revealed.

Continues in false comments!

 

[Nanja]

GT

God does not speak truth to some and untruth to others.

Only the Elect of God were chosen to Belief of the Truth.

2 Thes. 2:13
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

So no one has the ability to believe the Truth without the Holy Spirit's Sanctifying work in them in after New Birth.

1 Cor. 2:12-14

12
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Without the Spirit's Work in a person, the are prevented from understanding the Truth of God's Word which is Spiritual Eph. 4:18.


GT

No one will be saved unless they believe and obey.

By Christ's Obedience on behalf of all those He Lived and Died for,

Rom 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

They are made Righteous / Justified as perfect doers of the Law:

Rom. 2:13
(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

And shall be born again, Born of the Spirit and be shown to be Righteous.

 

[God's Truth]

GT


Only the Elect of God were chosen to Belief of the Truth.

2 Thes. 2:13
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

So no one has the ability to believe the Truth without the Holy Spirit's Sanctifying work in them in after New Birth.

1 Cor. 2:12-14

12
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Without the Spirit's Work in a person, the are prevented from understanding the Truth of God's Word which is Spiritual Eph. 4:18.


GT


By Christ's Obedience on behalf of all those He Lived and Died for,

Rom 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

They are made Righteous / Justified as perfect doers of the Law:

Rom. 2:13
(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

And shall be born again, Born of the Spirit and be shown to be Righteous.

That scripture is about the plan for salvation being planned before the creation of the world.

God chooses those who believe and obey.

No scripture says that we cannot believe and obey without being saved first.

God does not save unbelievers.

You will never ever get past that.

 

[Nanja]

That scripture is about the plan for salvation being planned before the creation of the world.

God chooses those who believe and obey.

No scripture says that we cannot believe and obey without being saved first.

God does not save unbelievers.

You will never ever get past that.

So wrong.

All the works a natural man does can't please God Rom. 8:8.

But those whom God has Chosen to Salvation, according to His purpose Eph. 1:11 and Grace, will be given Faith / Belief in New Birth which is a fruit and effect of the Holy Spirit Gal. 5:22; John 3:27.


2 Tim. 1:8-9

8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began


This Grace was given to all God's Elect in Union with Christ Jesus, their Covenant Head and Mediator, before the foundation of the world Eph. 1:4-7. And when they are born in time, they start out as unbelievers, then are made Spiritually Alive in New Birth Eph. 2:5. So then, Faith in Christ and Believing His Gospel are the evidences of a person being in a Born Again state.

Rom. 8:9
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

 

[Nanja]

Who does God Call with the Gospel?

2 Thessalonians 2:13-14

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 tells us who it is that is called by the Apostles Gospel, Its them that have been sanctified by the Spirit unto Belief of the Truth, which is the Gospel!

It's only the Elect of God who are Called by the Gospel according to God's Purpose and Grace.

2 Tim. 18-9
8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God; 9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Rom. 8:28-33

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.


They are Called according to God's Purpose of Election, "not of works, but of him that calleth" Rom. 9:11.

So when one Believes the Truth it's evidence they are of the remnant of the Election of Grace Rom. 11:5, Chosen in Union with Christ their Covenant Head and Surety before the foundation of the World Eph. 1:4.

Eph. 1:17-19
17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, 19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

 

[God's Truth]

So wrong.

All the works a natural man does can't please God Rom. 8:8.

You have been entrapped to believe that lie of an explanation.

The man who only lives to please the flesh cannot please God.

We are flesh and spirit.

So how do you get that some people are not more spiritual?

God is not going to go against His own teachings.

God says that we are to please Him.

If no one can ever please Him, then He wouldn't tell us to please Him. If God is the one who makes us please Him---then He wouldn't say that those who please Him are the reason they are chosen.

But those whom God has Chosen to Salvation, according to His purpose Eph. 1:11 and Grace, will be given Faith / Belief in New Birth which is a fruit and effect of the Holy Spirit Gal. 5:22; John 3:27.

ALL are given a measure of faith, it is just that some people's faith is taken away because they do not do right with their faith.

Matthew 25:…23His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Enter into the joy of your master!’ 24Finally, the servant who had received one talent came and said, ‘Master, I knew that you are a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed. 25So in my fear, I went and hid your talent in the ground. See, you have what belongs to you.’…


We are all given a measure of faith, it depends what we do with it.