That is not the Gospel. You are not able to receive the Gospel. The Gospel is about how God justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles the world unto himself by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19.
Paul: "I stand in Defense of the Gospel" Philippians 1:17.
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That is not the Gospel. You are not able to receive the Gospel. The Gospel is about how God justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles the world unto himself by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19.
beloved57
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You still have not explained how you reject the Gospel and scoff at at the same time?
The issue between us is the meaning of 'world'. The context is important. Any meaning we give to the term must not contradict the other teachings of the apostolic gospel. The 'world' mean't 'from both Jews and gentiles'.(rev7:9). God never and cannot fail in one iota of what he says he will do!
Nanja
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Right. The World that God Loved John 3:16 is the World of His Elect, which were Chosen in Union with Christ before the foundation, to be Holy and without blame before Him in Love Eph. 1:4.
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Much more than the word "world".
If Jesus did not atone for the sins of the whole world then Jesus is not Lord.
If Jesus is not Lord than he should be removed from his position at the right hand of God.
If Jesus is not Lord then you are still in your sins and without hope.
Doesn't say that. Jesus came into the world to save sinners, which we are all one of, therefore salvation is for EVERYONE, Hebrews 2:9.
You are a false teacher.
Nanja
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Jesus is Lord! Hallelujah! Praise God! The Word says it,I believe it and that settles it!
In Adam the totality of mankind were made guilty sinners subject to God's wrath.
God is not indebted to anyone,never,ever!
God was under no obligation whatsoever to save, or even make possible the salvation of anyone or everyone.
But God chose from among the mass of hell deserving sinners certain individuals to be the recipients of his grace through the death of Christ.God chose to make the salvation of his chosen ones a certainty. It is only these chosen for whom Jesus died. In due course God calls each of his elect to faith in Christ.
The whole plan of salvation is for the praise of God's glory alone: Father,Son and Holy Spirit! Amen
In Adam the totality of mankind were made guilty sinners subject to God's wrath.
God is not indebted to anyone,never,ever!
God was under no obligation whatsoever to save, or even make possible the salvation of anyone or everyone.
But God chose from among the mass of hell deserving sinners certain individuals to be the recipients of his grace through the death of Christ.God chose to make the salvation of his chosen ones a certainty. It is only these chosen for whom Jesus died. In due course God calls each of his elect to faith in Christ.
The whole plan of salvation is for the praise of God's glory alone: Father,Son and Holy Spirit! Amen
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Indeed.
Failure to grasp such important points ends up with nonsense such as this:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...e-God-Unjust&p=4826175&viewfull=1#post4826175
or this:
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...-Your-Savior&p=4849389&viewfull=1#post4849389
Lastly, try to steer clear of the odd ducks lurking about.
AMR
beloved57
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False teaching.Salvation was promised to the elect israel Isa 45:17
[FONT="]But Israel shall be saved in the [/FONT][FONT="]Lord[/FONT][FONT="] with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.
Israel is the Elect ![/FONT]
You think that scripture contradicts scripture and that because of that the Bible is an uncertain book.
Israel was chosen by God to be the nation from which the savior of the world would come. They were the elect nation.
Salvation was provided for all of Israel by the doing and the dying of Jesus, however, it is up to each individual to decide whether or not they want the salvation that was provided for them, Hebrews 2:9
beloved57
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The only people God promised Salvation unto was Israel. That is a elect people from all nationalities.
You are in denial of the fact that Israel REJECTED Jesus Christ and that the Gospel went into all of the world so that... "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10;13,
beloved57
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There's only one people God promised to Save. Israel Isa 45:17!
Who was Christ raised a Saviour unto according to promise here Acts 13:23
3 Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
Jesus is EVERYONE'S savior, but you must received Christ as your savior or you will not be saved.
"But as many as RECEIVED HIM to them gave he the power to become the Son's of God" John 1:12.
You have rejected him and instead have received the words of a heretic.
beloved57
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What does Acts 13:23 say ? Who was Jesus raised a Saviour unto?
Everything has to fit your God, Calvinism.