You are the guy that wrote this, aren't you? Will you answer me if I trade an eye for an I?
Paul couldn't keep the Law AND live for God - it was one or the other
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You are the guy that wrote this, aren't you? Will you answer me if I trade an eye for an I?
Yes if you read the scriptures in my signature they will tell you the gospel of our salvation
1 Corinthians 15:1-2 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV and about the mystery
of Christ given directly to Paul straight from the Risen Christ Jesus - just hover over the verses and they will pop up for you -
Jesus superseded the Sinai covenant with a new covenant. In the context of the new covenant he was perfect.
The Sinai covenant was for the people of Jacob, but the new covenant is for everyone regardless of ethnicity.
The new covenant law is a perfect law and that's good enough for me.
Welcome to TOL. :wave:
This is confusing. If this is true, then why does every church I go to use Old Testament scripture to re-instead the Law. I can see what you are saying. It seems to be an indication that something is wrong somewhere.
So how does this save me from the law? The church I go to has a copy of the 10 commandments on the wall.
New Covenant?
Likewise He also took the cup after supper saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you." (Luke 22:20)
So why does Jesus tell us to keep his commandments? How can Sanai be old, when Jesus says this?
The Sinai covenant was not perfect, the fault was with the people. (Hebrews 8:7)
Rather than create new people the Father created a new covenant. Are you in?
Like the book of Hebrews talks about? This is odd. I'm listening and I have had questions about this.
Ask away, I'm here to help.
I'm here. I don't understand why there could be a new covenant, when most churches talk about the "old" one.
Eye don't know
Ben Masada
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Well, the Word of God aka the Tanach says that Yahweh, He is our only Savior and Redeemer. (Isaiah 43:1,3)
And there is no difference in being saved by Jesus or by the Law when Jesus himself advised to listen to "Moses" aka the Law.(Luke 16:29-31)
Eye don't know either. You got my joke. But, how can we be perfect by anything but the Law?
Ben Masada
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By acclaiming himself released from the Law and slave of sin according to the flesh. (Romans 7:6, 25)
Ben Masada
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Not only Jesus but any one else once dead, is perfect and no longer stumbles. I can prove to you if you want. How? According to Ecclesiastes 7:20. "There has never been a man upon earth to have done only good and never sinned" and Jesus was a man upon earth. The dead ones are no longer upon earth but underneath. That's the general definition of the sinner. The private one is when we break the Golden Rule that says not to do unto others what we would not like they did unto ourselves. If Matthew 23:13-33 is to be believed, only in that text Jesus broke the Golden Rule 15 times. Then we have the case of the money changers in the Temple whom Jesus caused financial and physical damage without reason because they had official permission from the High Priest to do their job.
musterion
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No I don't.
Ben Masada
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They were not inside the Temple but in the frontal area. And they had the permission of the High Priest in order to make easier to the Jews from the Diaspora to buy a kosher animal to offer in sacrifice. Otherwise, how could they change their foreign money for the Temple money? They would have to return abroad because the foreign coin was not acceptable to buy any thing to be used in the Temple.
We ARE perfect because of Christ's work on the cross !!!!
Colossians 1:27-28 KJV -
Even your own quote states that Paul died through the law, that is, by way of the law. Therefore the law served its purpose in putting him to death, (the flesh and "old man"). The modern mainstream perceptions and teachings of Paul are therefore misinformation founded on incorrect readings of what Paul is teaching. You cannot be brought out from "under the law" if you were never "under the law" to begin with; and the law is our "schoolmaster" to bring us to Messiah. If you have not been brought through the law, like as if an immersion, then you are not "crucified with Messiah". Paul even says, Are you ignorant that all we who were immersed into Messiah Yeshua were immersed into his death? (Romans 6:3). The immersion of death is through the law so that you may be brought up from death on the other side and "become" another; and when you finally die you will see that the law is no more physical and carnal but, indeed, Spirit, supernal, and spiritual, (Romans 7:14).