pacifism for true Jesus' followers.
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drbrumley
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And another one.....great...keep em coming....
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
drbrumley
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And another....proving man's deceitfulness and barbarism with every pic...:up:
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
drbrumley
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Noone can destroy like God can thankfully.
marhig
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All killing from every side is wrong, no war is right, it's the result of greed and power, and those born of God should have nothing to do with it.
We are here to do the will of God, and to bring the life of Christ and the love of God to others through Christ, and show them a new and living way. Not bomb them!
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
killing a murderer to stop him from murdering more innocents is just
KingdomRose
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Yes I am. Violence to a child's body does not beget understanding and heart-felt cooperation. There are many ways to discipline a child without using violence.
KingdomRose
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I don't think YOU will ever understand that innocent people were killed and maimed when those bombs were dropped. Why does that make it OK just because they were "Japs"? You have the mind-set of the aggressor. You are no different.
KingdomRose
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I wonder why they gladly killed Christians on the other side of the battle. Christians killing Christians. Jesus indicated that if such were the case, you would know that they were not his disciples. Neither side. He said: "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another." (John 13:35, NASB) Can you love another disciple of Jesus if you are killing him?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
of course i understand it - it's silly of you to say that i don't
but a far greater number of lives were saved by the ending of the war, avoiding the necessity of either an armed invasion or starvation by blockade
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
by their fruits shall you know them
the fruits of the japs and the krauts were evil
Some of the pertinent Church teachings on the matter:
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http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm#2263
Do you really think that Christians would have partaken in such atrocities such as Pearl Harbor? And what percentage of the Japanese soldiers were Christians? Do you even know? How can you make an argument based on something you don't even know?
Where is a disciple of or brother in Christ EVER called the enemy?
Terror, war, pestilence, earthquakes and plague are instruments for the destruction of the wicked in the hands of the Almighty. He uses the wicked to destroy the wicked. Nobody is safe when He strikes and He never misses a target.
“Shall there be evil in the city, and Yah Veh hath not worked it?”
“Shall there be evil in the city, and Yah Veh hath not worked it?”
I know that we do not agree about much on here but on this one I completely agree with you. This was a wonderful answer and thank you for sharing.
It is hard for us mere humans (with finite knowledge and sinful urges and desires) to understand that war is not the answer. And especially because it is so deeply engrained in our culture and has been the human way of solving problems for as long as history goes back. And even for myself I have struggled with this question a lot. But I have finally understood that there is no just war and that killing because someone kills is not the answer. We are living under a new kingdom, the kingdom of GOd and HIs kingdom does not operate in early and worldy ways. God is the one who will deal with justice and judgement and it is our job to LOVE. Jesus taught the way of living in His Kingdom and HIs kingdom does not have any room for violence and war.
Give me the address of your closest friends and family so that I can write them all a letter, making it clear that if they ever find themselves in peril of death because they are being attacked by an unjust aggressor, that you will not help.