Says the J Dub! Irony!!! Deep, relentless irony!
Luke 2:11 and Is. 43:11
# Denominationally Blind
pacifism for true Jesus' followers.
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Says the J Dub! Irony!!! Deep, relentless irony!
Luke 2:11 and Is. 43:11
# Denominationally Blind
Do you believe Christians should engage in the killing of thousands in Iraq for the oil, and there will be no consequences for the nation?
LA
Says the person unwilling to listen to what God says, "Come let us reason together," which implies many questions being asked to discern a matter.
So how about you stop being a troll and actually respond to reason.
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Those in hell shall remain there until Judgment day as explained in Revelation.
It's a very good question, and deals with the "age of accountability," which is a huge topic to discuss, but I'll summarize it as best I can.
Children who die who are under the age of accountability (which is different for each person) do not go to Hell, they go to heaven, because, as the Bible says, they are known by God. They haven't sinned, and Jesus' death on the cross paid for Adam's sin, so no one will be punished for the sin of Adam.
However, as I've explained before in other threads, God is not a sadist, nor is He unhealthy or sick. He will not force someone to live with Him for all of eternity if they don't want to. So the children who die on earth who, over time, grow up and come to reject God, they will be allowed to leave Heaven and spend eternity apart from God.
For the "War on Terror", funding a war is expensive. And since we were on the just side of the war, liberating millions of people from the terrorists, part of the punishment of the governments that supported terrorism was that we take some oil to compensate us for the cost.
It is a just function for a government to go to war if our neighbors are suffering oppression.
There is nothing wrong for a Christian to participate in justice. In fact, Christians are the only one's who can know right from wrong, because we know the God of righteousness.
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Where, or do you mean the grave.
Do you mean children go to Heaven but a little older they go to hell if they have not saving faith?
Everyone born is in Adam until they become in Christ--
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
1Co 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
That can not be so.
There is no rebellion in Heaven nor has there ever been.
Since when is the killing of Christians in Bagdad a just war.
Also where were the people liberated from the terrorists in Iraq?
Have you read--
1Ki 22:19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.
1Ki 22:20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.
1Ki 22:21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.
1Ki 22:22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
1Ki 22:23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.
LA
No, I mean Hell. Hell is a literal place, though not a physical one.
No, I mean that the age of accountability is a point in everyone's life where they either accept or reject God.
See http://kgov.com/age-of-accountability.
Are babies innocent at birth? At conception? What have they done that makes them deserving of eternal punishment? Live? That's not a sin, nor is it a crime (though our world today is certainly trying to make it a crime, and sadly, succeeding).
See the link I posted above.
So Lucifer rebelling against God in the Garden of Eden (which was literally Heaven on Earth) doesn't count?
I'm not talking about rebellion, however, I'm talking about someone making a choice to reject God. God is not a sadist, and He will not force someone to live with Him if they choose not to. He's not sick. For children who die before they get to make that choice, I believe that God allows them to spend time with Him in Heaven, then make their decision on where they want to be.
In war, there are always going to be innocent bystanders who are injured or killed. That's normal. We can minimize the number of innocents killed, sure. But what's your point?
The entire country was liberated from Saddam Hussein's terrorist leadership.
I'm not sure what this has to do with what I posted...
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I bumped for Tnk123.
You claimed I cannot quote the verses like Patrick Jane says.
I have many threads based on what the Bible says.
So you bash your enemy Christian without cause.
shame on you.
peace and love, friend.
hello Tnk123, what say you?
You own me an apology for your false witnessing about me.
In fact, pj and musty have been doing the same over and over too.
They are just a big mouth without cause.
What would be the purpose of hell?
To allow people who rejected God to remain separated from Him for all eternity.
Because God loves His enemies enough to not force them to be with Him for all of eternity if they reject Him. That's why.
Jesus doesn't judge people who reject him. He was not sent to condemn the world.
Jesus does not kill them just because they don't accept Him.
You comment shows panicking.
clam down, Jesus loves you.
He loves His enemies, but He loves his followers more, and if He were to force His enemies to live with Him and His followers even though they would reject Him, doing so would turn Heaven into Hell for them and for His followers. So even though He loves them, He allows them to choose to remain separated from Him for the rest of eternity if they so choose.
And Jesus does not destroy His enemy just because they reject Him.
why don't you apply your word to your faith?
That's why He expects His followers to follow His teachings, even loving your enemy.
Jesus' standards are not like the world's like your worldly standards.
You are disregarding too many of Jesus' word to accommodate your corrupt practice.
remember Jesus says His followers are not of the world. You are still in the world, you ought to come out of her.
*“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. - John 3:18 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John3:18&version=NKJV
Kill? I said nothing about God killing anyone... I said He sends them to a place where He is not, because they reject Him, and don't want to be in His presence.
How am I panicking?