Obama connected to San B by PC at HSA

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Pragerradio.com read an article Friday showing that Obama shielded the two jihadists that had big plans in San B by using 'civil rights' and other profile protections in Homeland Security when they should have properly been cracked open.

So the question before us: Will Obama kill us with PC?

 

[patrick jane]

Pragerradio.com read an article Friday showing that Obama shielded the two jihadists that had big plans in San B by using 'civil rights' and other profile protections in Homeland Security when they should have properly been cracked open.

So the question before is: Will Obama kill us with PC?

B to the Y to the HSA ? qrs

somebody read an article ?

 

[OCTOBER23]

OBAMA IS AN ADMITTED MOSLEM/ISLAMIST.

HIS ASSIGNMENT IS TO WEAKEN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

BY DEMILITARIZING AND FINANCIALLY BANKRUPTING THE COUNTRY

AS WELL AS IMPORTING MUSLEM IMMIGRANTS TO CHANGE THE

POLITICAL STRUCTURE OF THE WHITE HOUSE AS DESIGNATED BY THE SAUDIS

Fortunately, Jesus will be here in 10 years to countermand their plan.

 

[OCTOBER23]

OBAMA IS FROM INDONESIA

AND WAS RAISED A MUSLEM.


Here is the proof

https://youtu.be/4Yro63c7B7A

 

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B to the Y to the HSA ? qrs

somebody read an article ?

The article said By doing political correctness at Homeland Security, Obama protected those two jihadists in San Bernadino. He's part of it. There was no reason not to have investigated them much earlier except for Obama's own hand in enforcing political correctness about civil rights or profiling.

Pragerradio.com read this as an article from somewhere else. I don't have the source yet, and dont' see it posted yet like so many others have been.

 

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http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...email&utm_campaign=Jolt12172015&utm_term=Jolt

 

[OCTOBER23]

OBAMA IS A PRACTICING MUSLEM

https://youtu.be/tCAffMSWSzY

https://youtu.be/ABr20py6u_M

 

[This Charming Manc]

Lol if you going to quote someone out of context have better editing than shutting him down part way through a sentence, it becomes very obvious what you are doing.

Obama would describe himself as a Christian with a knowledge of Islam due to his family connections. All the quotes he made are consistent with that line and distorted by lack of context.

You make think you can be president of the US by insulting the faith of 1/3 of the countries in the world. Obama's not as moronic as you so doesn't do what you want him to.

OBAMA IS A PRACTICING MUSLEM

https://youtu.be/tCAffMSWSzY

https://youtu.be/ABr20py6u_M

 

[brewmama]

Lol if you going to quote someone out of context have better editing than shutting him down part way through a sentence, it becomes very obvious what you are doing.

Obama would describe himself as a Christian with a knowledge of Islam due to his family connections. All the quotes he made are consistent with that line and distorted by lack of context.

You make think you can be president of the US by insulting the faith of 1/3 of the countries in the world. Obama's not as moronic as you so doesn't do what you want him to.

They consider themselves our enemy whether we insult them or not. Why not be honest? Obama "describes himself as a Christian" about as much as is necessary to get elected, and that's it.

 

[Greg Jennings]

They consider themselves our enemy whether we insult them or not. Why not be honest? Obama "describes himself as a Christian" about as much as is necessary to get elected, and that's it.

The reason you don't want to insult them is that you don't want to justify their hatred of us stemming from multiple occupations of their homelands. If you insult them, they see it as confirmation that the west hates them, and increases the likelihood (to near certainty) that many of those children who've experienced suffering due to said occupations will grow up to wage 'jihad' on those who they think hate them.

I was watching a documentary the other day about kids in war torn Afghanistan. One of children interviewed was a 12 year old boy. He said that four years before, US soldiers had broken into his home and abducted his father, whom he sincerely believed to be innocent. He went on to say that if his father was never returned, "the only option I have is to wage jihad on the Americans." By insulting them publicly, you're only further inflaming tensions

 

[brewmama]

The reason you don't want to insult them is that you don't want to justify their hatred of us stemming from multiple occupations of their homelands. If you insult them, they see it as confirmation that the west hates them, and increases the likelihood (to near certainty) that many of those children who've experienced suffering due to said occupations will grow up to wage 'jihad' on those who they think hate them.

I was watching a documentary the other day about kids in war torn Afghanistan. One of children interviewed was a 12 year old boy. He said that four years before, US soldiers had broken into his home and abducted his father, whom he sincerely believed to be innocent. He went on to say that if his father was never returned, "the only option I have is to wage jihad on the Americans." By insulting them publicly, you're only further inflaming tensions

Oh, THAT explains all the terrorist attacks against us leading up to and including 9/11. And all their terroristic activity towards Christians and differing Muslims in their own countries. So appeasement and ignoring of reality is what you recommend, even though it has never worked with Muslims AT ALL.

 

[Greg Jennings]

Oh, THAT explains all the terrorist attacks against us leading up to and including 9/11.

Yeah actually it does. It's called the Gulf War. And in addition to that, we (as in the US) trained, funded, and armed Osama bin Laden when he was doing our dirty work for us in Afghanistan versus the Russians in the 80s. Why do you think it took so long for Muslim extremists to launch an attack on our soil? It's because for decades they were preoccupied with Israel and with Russian occupants. When the occupants suddenly turned American, America became the "great Satan." See how that works? If you don't want to have enemies, then don't occupy lands that aren't yours against the will of the native people

And all their terroristic activity towards Christians and differing Muslims in their own countries.

Yeah, those would be Muslim extremists, which are not a high percentage of the Muslim population. When you insult all of Islam, you're insulting ALL of the population. Call out the extremists all you want, but there's literally no point in condemning all of Islam.

So appeasement and ignoring of reality is what you recommend, even though it has never worked with Muslims AT ALL.

How is not insulting the non-radicalized Muslims count as "appeasement"? Insulting them would be going out of your way to demean an entire group of people, instead of just the extremists. If you think that would be productive, you're just silly

 

[brewmama]

Yeah actually it does. It's called the Gulf War. And in addition to that, we (as in the US) trained, funded, and armed Osama bin Laden when he was doing our dirty work for us in Afghanistan versus the Russians in the 80s.

Nope. Terrorist attacks on Americans 1979-1988
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/cron.html

If we helped Bin Laden, what explains him turning against us?

Yeah, those would be Muslim extremists, which are not a high percentage of the Muslim population. When you insult all of Islam, you're insulting ALL of the population. Call out the extremists all you want, but there's literally no point in condemning all of Islam.

No it isn't just a small portion. It's the government, the police and everyday citizens. You are ignoring reality.

How is not insulting the non-radicalized Muslims count as "appeasement"? Insulting them would be going out of your way to demean an entire group of people, instead of just the extremists. If you think that would be productive, you're just silly

I don't know what you mean by "insulting them", really. The OP is a perfect example of appeasement, as is any kowtowing to presumably insulted muslim sensibilities, and claiming that Islam is a peaceful religion, and that the terrorists aren't really Muslims, and such. It never has been true and it isn't now.

 

[Greg Jennings]

Nope. Terrorist attacks on Americans 1979-1988
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/cron.html

And which of those was on American soil again, as I stated?

If we helped Bin Laden, what explains him turning against us?

He was radical from the beginning, and after Russia was defeated he turned his attention our way. He knew we helped him only because we wanted Russia to lose, and that we wouldn't have lifted a finger if there was nothing in it for us. Then you have the Gulf War, which he saw as an invasion of Muslim territory (and it was). That was kind of the last straw, you could say.

No it isn't just a small portion. It's the government, the police and everyday citizens. You are ignoring reality.

Yes, some of their governments aren't exactly friendly, but more are. Some, like Jordan, are very pro-America. If you think most of the everyday citizens are radicalized...then you're smoking some good stuff. Some are, but it's a very small number outside of ISIS controlled territory. And I'm sure you're aware that ISIS doesn't really let you choose what to think, correct? If so many of these people are radicalized, then why are they fleeing ISIS? Shouldn't they be embracing them? Funny that's not what we see

I don't know what you mean by "insulting them", really. The OP is a perfect example of appeasement, as is any kowtowing to presumably insulted muslim sensibilities, and claiming that Islam is a peaceful religion, and that the terrorists aren't really Muslims, and such. It never has been true and it isn't now.

If you call Islam as a whole evil, as you do, that would be considered an insult. And if you do that they not only have experienced the US coming into their lives and sometimes destroying them, but then they hear the US essentially adding insult to injury by saying they're the bad ones. That doesn't make any sense and they know that. When someone invades your house and holds you at gunpoint, are you to blame? Because that's what happened to them, just on a much grander scale

 

[brewmama]

And which of those was on American soil again, as I stated?

You may have brought it up later in the conversation, but it has nothing to do with the fact that we have been attacked many times prior to the Gulf War.

If you call Islam as a whole evil, as you do, that would be considered an insult. And if you do that they not only have experienced the US coming into their lives and sometimes destroying them, but then they hear the US essentially adding insult to injury by saying they're the bad ones. That doesn't make any sense and they know that. When someone invades your house and holds you at gunpoint, are you to blame? Because that's what happened to them, just on a much grander scale

I didn't say that, (they are evil) although it is true, but they are most definitely violent and are so in the name of Islam. And much of it has nothing to do with us "being in their house". That should certainly be said.

 

[Greg Jennings]

You may have brought it up later in the conversation, but it has nothing to do with the fact that we have been attacked many times prior to the Gulf War.

Well we'll chalk that up to miscommunication

I didn't say that, (they are evil) although it is true, but they are most definitely violent and are so in the name of Islam. And much of it has nothing to do with us "being in their house". That should certainly be said.

True, some of the violence has nothing to do with US occupation. But even for those who don't hate the US for occupying their lands, they're all free to use it as an excuse for committing acts of terror. In their minds they can justify "jihad" because we were there in their lands. If you don't occupy, you don't give them either an excuse to attack or a real reason to

 

[brewmama]

Well we'll chalk that up to miscommunication


True, some of the violence has nothing to do with US occupation. But even for those who don't hate the US for occupying their lands, they're all free to use it as an excuse for committing acts of terror. In their minds they can justify "jihad" because we were there in their lands. If you don't occupy, you don't give them either an excuse to attack or a real reason to

That may sound reasonable, but history belies it all.