Perhaps it is all those virgins waiting in Paradise?
Nuclear Iran Obama's Legacy
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Perhaps it is all those virgins waiting in Paradise?
Daniel1611
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Consider this. Iran doesn't need a nuclear weapon. All they need to do is convince others that they have one. This is true for any country.
Nuclear Iran Obama's Legacy
1. After the Israel bombed the Iraq nuclear facilities, Iran buried their program deep underground.
2. Short of using nuclear weapons, Israel lacks both the weapon and the delivery system to penetrate Iran's facilities.
3. Netanyahu knows that only America has the ability to destroy these facilities.
4. This is a multinational negotiation - if America were to refuse to ratify this agreement, the other nations who signed it would be under no obligation to follow the US lead. Once they resumed trade with Iran, any American leverage to negotiate another nuclear deal would be lost.
1. After the Israel bombed the Iraq nuclear facilities, Iran buried their program deep underground.
2. Short of using nuclear weapons, Israel lacks both the weapon and the delivery system to penetrate Iran's facilities.
3. Netanyahu knows that only America has the ability to destroy these facilities.
4. This is a multinational negotiation - if America were to refuse to ratify this agreement, the other nations who signed it would be under no obligation to follow the US lead. Once they resumed trade with Iran, any American leverage to negotiate another nuclear deal would be lost.
Top State official leaving after Iran talks Pr 8:36, Mt 24:6, 22, 2 Thess. 2:7, 8, Ob 7
Daniel1611
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This whole thing is phony. "Oh no! Iran has a nuke! Shred the constitution so big brother can protect you!"
We live in a culture that believes "Violence Saves." Scapegoating of others and revenge and war are seen as redemptive.
Negotiation, collaborative problem-solving, diplomacy and mediation are largely unknown to most Americans.
There are many more other choices dealing with conflict besides giving in and fighting back.
We are so afraid of "enemies" (Muslims, immigrants, prisoners, the homeless, etc.) that we are unable to see what is right in front of our noses.
It is interesting that folks who have not read the agreement (proudly, in some cases) have condemned it.
"Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran.'
--John McCain
"Bomb Iraq."
--Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz.
Negotiation, collaborative problem-solving, diplomacy and mediation are largely unknown to most Americans.
There are many more other choices dealing with conflict besides giving in and fighting back.
We are so afraid of "enemies" (Muslims, immigrants, prisoners, the homeless, etc.) that we are unable to see what is right in front of our noses.
It is interesting that folks who have not read the agreement (proudly, in some cases) have condemned it.
"Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran.'
--John McCain
"Bomb Iraq."
--Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz.
Daniel1611
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This whole Iran thing is fake. Hurry and give up your money and rights to fight Iran! How convenient for the state and the war profiteers.
Seems to me that they are certainly convincing folks like you.
Daniel1611
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I dont believe iran has nuclear weapons. I'm not convinced anyone has them, to be frank. Like I said, why would anyone spend billions if dollars and so much time on weapons you don't need. You only need to convince the public that you have them.
The "Iran has nuclear weapons" has been a constant refrain every three or four years ago since they took U.S. embassy employees hostage.
The original idea of a nation purporting to have a nuclear arsenal was described during the 50s and 60s as "MAD"=Mutually Assured Destruction.
In other words, the threat of nuclear war would keep every nation on its best behavior.
Unfortunately there are at least a dozen instances when the world was perched on the brink of total destruction and radiation fallout because of nuclear accidents that came too close to becoming a horrific nuclear accident.
Daniel1611
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So you see my point. They don't need nuclear weapons. They need the illusion that they have them. The same goes for all governments. So I'm not convinced yet that nuclear weapons are anything but an illusion to keep the public affraid.
There's a scene in the film The Devil's Rejects where one of the hostages gets one of the captor's guns only to find out it isn't loaded. The captor responds that they didn't need bullets, " It's all mind power.". Nuclear weapons could be the same thing.
You express an important truth. It's just that we seem to be better off not knowing the possession of these weapons are a ruse.
Frankly, I am scared to death of nuclear weapons and their final effects on humanity.
After all, we have used nuclear weapons and other nations have tested them--including Russia.
Daniel1611
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We have claimed to have used them and other nations claim to have tested them. Watch old videos of the nuclear bomb testings on YouTube. Most of them look fishy.
I just don't accept that. And the horrific birth defects as the result of radiation are rarely shown in America. The nuclear weapons used in the Middle East produce the same anomalies.
Scroll down to see the results of radiation on children:
http://www.wildriverreview.com/COLU...conomy-of-Brian-Arthur/William-Irwin-Thompson
Daniel1611
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Whatever they did caused horrid side effects. Maybe it was a nuclear bomb. Maybe it was fire bombing and some weird chemicals. Either way, it's control by fear.
Obama hides Iran side deals from Congress :Nineveh: Mt 24:6, 22, 2 Thess. 2:7, 8, Ob 7
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