No Sandwich Is More Important Than a Child's Life

[Rusha]

I happened to come across this story this morning and thought it posed an interesting question:

The rights/accomodations of an individual/few VS rights of most.

No Sandwich Is More Important Than a Child's Life

In this particular case, I found myself agreeing with the mom. The risk to her daughter should far outweigh the momentary joy
of eating peanuts during the few hours these children are at preschool.

 

[Tambora]

I happened to come across this story this morning and thought it posed an interesting question:

The rights/accomodations of an individual/few VS rights of most.

No Sandwich Is More Important Than a Child's Life

In this particular case, I found myself agreeing with the mom. The risk to her daughter should far outweigh the momentary joy
of eating peanuts during the few hours these children are at preschool.

Interesting story.

I would have to conclude that the mother can only rely on the compassion of others, and it should not become any type of rule or law for the other children.

And if the mother is willing to send her child to eat in a place where there is a possibility of peanut butter being in the vicinity, then it is SHE that is putting her child at risk because there are way too many variables that could go wrong for her daughter's safety.
Somebody, at some time, is going to be in a hurry and forget about the peanut butter issue.

One could as easily ask, "Is the child's education worth more than her life?" Why bother with public education if it is going to put her daughter in such a high risk situation? What in the world is going to happen when she reaches college?

While I, personally, would not send a peanut butter sandwich with my child because of the girl's allergy problem; there is still the risk that I may be in a hurry some day and forget.

To me, the mother is taking a huge risk with the life of her daughter.
The surest solution would be to home school.


Tough one, Rusha. Kinda between a rock and hard place.
:think:

 

[Rusha]

While I, personally, would not send a peanut butter sandwich with my child because of the girl's allergy problem; there is still the risk that I may be in a hurry some day and forget.

To me, the mother is taking a huge risk with the life of her daughter.
The surest solution would be to home school.

Tough one, Rusha. Kinda between a rock and hard place.
:think:

ITA. As a parent, I would *personally* comply with the request. However, IF the child were my daughter, I don't think I would trust the other parents to comply.

 

[annabenedetti]

I think asking parents not to send peanuts or peanut butter to school is a reasonable request. I noticed it doesn't appear to be a requirement, but I wouldn't mind if it was, I'd be willing to make adjustments to my child's lunch for the safety of the allergic student.

I wonder why there seems to be such an increase in severe, life-threatening peanut allergies? Are there more cases, or are we just more aware?

 

[PureX]

There are no certainties in life. However, there are some reasonable precautions we can take. Perhaps someone could be given the responsibility of making sure that allergic children eat only their own lunch while at school? And that an effective medical response is readily available if it's needed.

I don't think locking children away from all danger is a reasonable solution, as that will become it's own form of endangerment. But certainly reasonable precautions can be found, and implemented. And that's our responsibility as adults.

 

[Tambora]

ITA. As a parent, I would *personally* comply with the request. However, IF the child were my daughter, I don't think I would trust the other parents to comply.

I wouldn't either. Way too risky.

 

[annabenedetti]

It's not just a matter of shared food though, PureX. I remember a couple cases that made the news, one young allergic person died after kissing his/her boyfriend/girlfriend (can't remember which) after the other had eaten peanut butter - and another who died from being in the same room as cooking legumes. These kinds of allergies can be terrifying and yet those who have them have to try their best to lead a normal life.

 

[PureX]

It's not just a matter of shared food though, PureX. I remember a couple cases that made the news, one young allergic person died after kissing his/her boyfriend/girlfriend (can't remember which) and another who died from being in the same room as cooking legumes. These kinds of allergies can be terrifying and yet those who have them have to try their best to lead a normal life.

Obviously, the precautions have to align with the danger. There may be extreme examples that preclude a kid from attending public school. But, again, it's our job to develop and apply reasonable precautions, understanding that nothing is certain.

 

[annabenedetti]

Obviously, the precautions have to align with the danger. There may be extreme examples that preclude a kid from attending public school. But, again, it's our job to develop and apply reasonable precautions, understanding that nothing is certain.

I agree. I wouldn't want to live life in a bubble.

Anymore...

 

[Rusha]

There are no certainties in life. However, there are some reasonable precautions we can take. Perhaps someone could be given the responsibility of making sure that allergic children eat only their own lunch while at school? And that an effective medical response is readily available if it's needed.

Good suggestion, though I would take it even further and say encourage ALL the children to eat only their lunches. It would work for a safety precaution for them as well.

I don't think locking children away from all danger is a reasonable solution, as that will become it's own form of endangerment. But certainly reasonable precautions can be found, and implemented. And that's our responsibility as adults.

:thumb:

 

[PureX]

Anymore...

:thumb:

 

[Rusha]

It's not just a matter of shared food though, PureX. I remember a couple cases that made the news, one young allergic person died after kissing his/her boyfriend/girlfriend (can't remember which) after the other had eaten peanut butter - and another who died from being in the same room as cooking legumes. These kinds of allergies can be terrifying and yet those who have them have to try their best to lead a normal life.

I was thinking the same thing ... as in accidentally coming into contact with the peanuts.

 

[genuineoriginal]

I wonder why there seems to be such an increase in severe, life-threatening peanut allergies? Are there more cases, or are we just more aware?

There are more cases.
Parents and health care professionals are causing it by giving the children vaccinations.

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The Shocking Link Between Peanut Allergies And Vaccines
One of the most serious allergies in young children, peanut allergies are on the rise, and experts suggest that childhood vaccinations might be a culprit.
. . .
The onset of the peanut allergy epidemic coincides with the onset of refined peanut oil as a common product in manufacturing and producing vaccines.
. . .
_____​

 

[Angel4Truth]

I happened to come across this story this morning and thought it posed an interesting question:

The rights/accomodations of an individual/few VS rights of most.

No Sandwich Is More Important Than a Child's Life

In this particular case, I found myself agreeing with the mom. The risk to her daughter should far outweigh the momentary joy
of eating peanuts during the few hours these children are at preschool.

If the risk is that great, she shouldn't be depending on other people to comply, and then what happens when she isnt in preschool, should an entire school comply?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

I have an idea: Instead of becoming a nannie state and demanding that others not eat peanut butter sandwiches, why not send the child to school with an epipen?

The wonders of modern medicine.

 

[Rusha]

I have an idea: Instead of becoming a nannie state

lain: Thank you for breaking the irony meter. Feel free to go back to part IV of your never ending saga of a thread.

 

[Arthur Brain]

lain: Thank you for breaking the irony meter. Feel free to go back to part IV of your never ending saga of a thread.

:chuckle:

He's probably hacked off because he had to sweep up some litter in the mall...

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

I have an idea: Instead of becoming a nannie state and demanding that others not eat peanut butter sandwiches, why not send the child to school with an epipen?

lain: Thank you for breaking the irony meter. Feel free to go back to part IV of your never ending saga of a thread.

:chuckle:

He's probably hacked off because he had to sweep up some litter in the mall...

Now girls, play nice. Many parents that have children with potentially life threatening allergies send their child out the door each morning with an epipen, why should this case be any different?

Regarding the thread that you're both referring to: Nothing new to report, just another homosexual that got off the hook for raping an underage boy.

 

[Rusha]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

I have an idea: Instead of becoming a nannie state and demanding that others

Give it a rest. Having you lecture others about desiring a nanny state is like George Hamilton lecturing others to stay out of the sun.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

Now girls, play nice. Many parents that have children with potentially life threatening allergies send their child out the door each morning with an epipen, why should this case be any different?

Regarding the thread that you're both referring to: Nothing new to report, just another homosexual that got off the hook for raping an underage boy

Give it a rest. Having you lecture others about a desiring a nanny state is like George Hamilton lecturing others to stay out of the sun.

Come on Sandy, you started a thread using an article from your favorite of all news sources (The Huffington Post), now tell us why parents shouldn't send their child that has an allergy to peanuts out the door with an epiepen?

Call anna or Art for backup if this request is too taxing on that liberal brain of yours Sandy.