elected4ever
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Romans 12:17 Â_Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
18 Â_If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
19 Â_Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
20 Â_Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
21 Â_Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 13:1 Â_¶Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Â_Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 Â_For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 Â_For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Â_Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 Â_For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
As far as I know it is permissible to kill in self defense or the protect the life of another in immanent danger. The operative words are,"If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
Self defense and protection of another is not vengeance. Vengeance is retaliation for a perceived wrong. Once a perceived danger is passed there is no authority to kill.
The state has the authority to punish evil and is mandated by God to execute judgment. Even kill if need be. No private citizen has that right. The problem is that the state protects murderers by law by not recognizing the unborn as a real person in defiance of the mandate by God to execute judgment on the evil.
18 Â_If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
19 Â_Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
20 Â_Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
21 Â_Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 13:1 Â_¶Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Â_Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 Â_For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 Â_For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Â_Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 Â_For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
As far as I know it is permissible to kill in self defense or the protect the life of another in immanent danger. The operative words are,"If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
Self defense and protection of another is not vengeance. Vengeance is retaliation for a perceived wrong. Once a perceived danger is passed there is no authority to kill.
The state has the authority to punish evil and is mandated by God to execute judgment. Even kill if need be. No private citizen has that right. The problem is that the state protects murderers by law by not recognizing the unborn as a real person in defiance of the mandate by God to execute judgment on the evil.