ECT Messianic R. Jeslow ID's the other 'gospel' in Galatians

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Interplanner

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SaulToPaul said:
Sarah, New Jerusalem: mothers of the free

Paul's comparing the Law and the promise, he isn't saying that the Body of Christ has their inheritance in the New Jerusalem. :chuckle:
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He wouldn't because there isn't a separate inheritance. Your love for 'chuckling' once again defeats your ability to think. You just happen not to know what Ephesians is saying (and Ephesians was the widest circulated letter ever). And you don't put inheritance from 3:18 together with this because God forbid 2P2P would be found butt naked and upside down.

If you do theological apartheid and remove a bunch of people from the free woman, guess what you just did with the other people? There's just slave vs free here, not several 'frees' nor several free 'mothers' (see your typo above).
 
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SaulToPaul said:
Yep, the City is the Lamb's wife, not mother.
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:chuckle: :doh: All are metaphor.

It has often been said that "a picture is worth a thousand words."

In this, the purpose of metaphor, analogy, figures of speech, etc., are as a hoped for means of allowing a much more fuller sense of "a picture" via far less words - via a much more fuller picture already familiar to the speaker's intended audience.

Was physical Jerusalem (land mass of dirt, etc., known as Jerusalem) actually the mother of Israelites? No.

And yet "she" is said to have "children."

And "daughters" who "weep."

And a Christ who is their brethren.

And so on.
 
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Danoh said:
:chuckle: :doh: All are metaphor.

It has often been said that "a picture is worth a thousand words."

In this, the purpose of metaphor, analogy, figures of speech, etc., are as a hoped for means of allowing a much more fuller sense of "a picture" via far less words - via a much more fuller picture already familiar to the speaker's intended audience.

Was physical Jerusalem (land mass of dirt, etc., known as Jerusalem) actually the mother of Israelites? No.

And yet "she" is said to have "children."

And "daughters" who "weep."

And a Christ who is their brethren.

And so on.
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None of that changes the FACT that the metaphor says that the city is the Lamb's WIFE and NOT MOTHER.
 
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Right Divider said:
You don't even know what is being discussed.
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More than you think. The mothers are the two cities, but the wife also comes down adorned as a bride, and last I checked, brides often have children, and Gal 4 is about slave vs free women and slave vs free children.


Who are the children of the free woman, the bride?
 
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Interplanner said:
More than you think. The mothers are the two cities, but the wife also comes down adorned as a bride, and last I checked, brides often have children, and Gal 4 is about slave vs free women and slave vs free children.

Who are the children of the free woman, the bride?
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They are DIFFERENT figures of speech goofball.

The "free woman" and the "bride" are NOT the same thing.

You are so dense.
 
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Interplanner

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Right Divider said:
They are DIFFERENT figures of speech goofball.

The "free woman" and the "bride" are NOT the same thing.

You are so dense.
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Oh, aren't there children of the free woman in Gal 4? And isn't there a bride in Rev 21? And Eph 5? And don't brides have children bye and bye, LogicPriest?
 
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Interplanner said:
Oh, aren't there children of the free woman in Gal 4? And isn't there a bride in Rev 21? And Eph 5? And don't brides have children bye and bye, LogicPriest?
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You are worse that illogical, you are clinically insane.

They are DIFFERENT analogies dummy.

The children of PROMISE are the child of the FREE woman.

The bride that comes down in Rev is a CITY.

You are SO dense.
 
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Interplanner

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Right Divider said:
You are worse that illogical, you are clinically insane.

They are DIFFERENT analogies dummy.

The children of PROMISE are the child of the FREE woman.

The bride that comes down in Rev is a CITY.

You are SO dense.
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It's his people. Its not water pipes and concrete. Its the heavenly throng or host of Heb 12:22. "They will be his people" Rev 21. Some parts of the structure are tribes of the new Israel, some are apostles. God and Christ are the temple and the light.

Any questions?
 
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Interplanner said:
It's his people. Its not water pipes and concrete. Its the heavenly throng or host of Heb 12:22. "They will be his people" Rev 21. Some parts of the structure are tribes of the new Israel, some are apostles. God and Christ are the temple and the light.

Any questions?
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:chuckle:
 
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