Which one would be republican?
McCain's Pick is Not Mitt Romney
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Which one would be republican?
Usually the less evil one.
Mr. 5020
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The main piece of evidence that Bob talks about in the show is an article in the NY Times that describes Romney's campaign as falling apart. The picture at the top of the article is an ARTL protest.
Link to article
That's not proof that ARTL was responsible for sinking Romney, however.
Mr. 5020
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I agree. I was just trying to help.
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Unfortunately, right now, the "us" that you refer to is a very small minority whose voice is making no impact. I will stand at your side the next 4 years to help increase those numbers, but I will not elect someone now who may make that impossible.
Do you realize that you're contradicting yourself? You say that our numbers are too small to cause McCain the election, but you aren't going to join us for fear we might succeed!
Here are the possible outcomes of our strategy in this election:
1) The pro-lifers who withhold their votes from McCain are too small to make an impact, and McCain wins.
2) Obama wins by a wins by a margin that exceeds the number of pro-life third-party voters in the relevant states.
3) McCain loses because of the votes that pro-lifers denied him.
You are saying that 1 or 2 will be the case, so therefore you won't join us because if you do 3 might happen. But then you say that 3 would be a worthy goal that you would be willing towards in four years. Do you see how that doesn't really make sense?
In four years, the Democratic nominee could be every bit as bad as Obama, or worse. Are you really willing to back a strategy that would help such a nominee win, or will you be promising to join us only if we can recruit a few million others first? Why not help to lead the way? As an added bonus, you can go to sleep at night on November 4th knowing that you haven't voted for a child-killer.
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No.
No, I'm saying that your numbers are too small to elect someone else, and they are too small that voting for someone else will leave the majority of voters the idea that you prevented McCain from being elected. They are not, however, too small to make a difference in getting McCain elected instead of Obama. You are a silent, but powerful minority.
I will not join you, because I do not want Obama elected, not because I do not believe in your cause.
Not true. You are not that small.
It's possible, but why take that chance?
It's possible, so why take that chance, unless of course you prefer Obama.
Nope.
I will work to change the system while I can, but I will not be so foolish as to destroy all the work we have done in the process.
That doesn't make sense. Backing you now, will help Obama win. If you do not recruit enough people in the future, then I will once again vote for the most conservative nominee available. I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face.
I am.
Who are you voting for?
John McCain or Obama will kill no more babies than your candidate will.
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There was no contradiction, just an unwillingness on your part to listen to what I said.
Small enough to not get your candidate elected or make a point by voting for a third party (whoever that is).
Not small enough to prevent Obama from being elected which could very well destroy any opportunity you may have in the future of a third-party candidate from getting elected.
Surely, you understand the difference, or are you just going to keep trying to unjustly discredit me with this political rhetoric of yours?
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There is hardly a gnats wisker of a difference between Obama and McCain. So let me ask you a question. Will the Republicans in the house and senate fight harder against the socialist policies of a Democrat president or against the socialist policies of one of their own Republican presidents? You and I both know the answer. The republicans will actually fight for socialist policies if those policies are promoted by one of their own.
There is hardly a gnats wisker of a difference between Obama and McCain. So let me ask you a question. Will the Republicans in the house and senate fight harder against the socialist policies of a Democrat president or against the socialist policies of one of their own Republican presidents? You and I both know the answer. The republicans will actually fight for socialist policies if those policies are promoted by one of their own.
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Well then, you should vote for Obama if you truly believe that there will be more abortions under McCain.
There won't be any difference at all between the two on the issue of abortion. So why are you voting for McCain?
Let's say, just for the sake of argument, it would be Hitler.
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Because there are only two choices this election, since the majority who claim to be pro-life sat on their hands the last four years. We've got to do more to in the next four years to separate the wheat from the chaff in respect to those who claim they are pro-life, and those who are just using abortion as job security (NRTL / Dobson).
[ :BillyBob: ]"The message has already been sent to the GOP, that their platform is not conservative enough, as evidenced by the increase of support when Palin was added to the ticket"[/ :BillyBob: ]
See the "best quote of the show" at this link: http://theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1859374#post1859374
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