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Ever hear of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit who deires your life to be profitable in Christ? Now, what was your question again to Charming manc?
ECT MARTIN LUTHER ON OBEDIENCE TO THE CHURCH
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Ever hear of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit who deires your life to be profitable in Christ? Now, what was your question again to Charming manc?
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Likewise __ and thank you.
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Why the need to test the spirits if your pursuing God to know Him?? Will He allow His pursuing ones to be deceived? Is not the Bible the instruction for the how of it all? So again, is your love TO God suffcient for you to immediately have His mind in the matter? What should be our motivation for seeking it if not tp please Him? In this, will He give a stone when asking Him for bread? __ and if the results are not to our expectations, have we really failed?
it says so in my bible
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C' mon. Lets not be childish. I gave you good reasoning.
If you don't want to discuss using your inteligience, just say so.
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Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition
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You forgot to mention why Luther was added to the list of notorious heretics.
Martin Luther
(1483-1546) (Lutheran)
"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist...personally I declare that I owe the Pope no other obedience than that to Antichrist." (Aug. 18, 1520) Taken from "The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers," Vol. 2, pg. 121 by Froom.
When the papacy resumes full control over the world the Inquisitions will continue at all ahead full, the holy office "Office of the Inquisition" has never closed.
Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregation_for_the_Doctrine_of_the_Faith
everready
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You forgot to mention why Luther was added to the list of notorious heretics.
Martin Luther
(1483-1546) (Lutheran)
"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist...personally I declare that I owe the Pope no other obedience than that to Antichrist." (Aug. 18, 1520) Taken from "The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers," Vol. 2, pg. 121 by Froom.
When the papacy resumes full control over the world the Inquisitions will continue at all ahead full, the holy office "Office of the Inquisition" has never closed.
Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregation_for_the_Doctrine_of_the_Faith
everready
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iInteresting how that might all fit with the ongoing Islamic issue.
everready
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Your one of the few to see this, same methods same techniques from the god of this world.
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Indeed, some type of "religious" peace will be made between Islam and Christianity. It will not stop the ongoing persecusion, perhaps lessen it for 3 1/2 years, at which time all hell will come against the "confessing" Christian. He will be sought out and beheaded. That is what I believe, based upon my understanding the scriptures that speak of it happening in that way.
It was the RCC who made the quarrel with Luther an attack on Papal infallibility.
So you are defending the Pope's infallible ruling that God's pardon can be bought for cash.
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All of these have been explained, addressed, and answered by Catholics on this forum a great many times. How, then, does this fit with Luther's initial statement in the OP?
Gaudium de veritate,
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He was added to the list of notorious heretics for the simple reason that he publicly and unrepentantly taught several formal doctrinal heresies.
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Luther himself entered into conflict with Christ's one historic Catholic Church when he presumed to "reform" not merely illegitimate practices such as the abuse of indulgences (for which many Catholics of the day were seeking reform), but rather the formal doctrines of the Christian faith. To attempt the latter, of course, Luther possessed no ecclesial or doctrinal authority whatsoever.
Not at all, since the "sale" of indulgences was never a formal teaching of the Catholic Church, but was rather a temporary abuse popular during the Late Renaissance Period which was ultimately corrected by the Church itself. Your comment here, therefore, is simply incorrect.
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desiringGod7
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Lol they would most certainly not..
Of all the far-fetched twistings of scriprure..
You guys jump through so many hoops (almost completely in the O.T.) to support your selling of salvation, it is absolutely ridiculous.
The selling if indulgences is absolutely NOT clearly taught in the Bible. Catholic documents on this show a sloppy piecing together of different scriptures, taken out of context, supposedly supporting their claim, but it's clearly foolishness.
I promise, no man will EVER come to that conclusion on his own by reading through his Bible, even thoroughly and repeatedly. But he WOULD agree with Luther (post RCC)..
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Hi desiringGod! Welcome!
Are you sure he is serious about that?? You are new here. You should find out before jumping to conclusions, __ if you want credibility.
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He certainly seemed like it. At the very least, he is Catholic, and I know how they usually treat a discussion of indulgences.
He has jumped to conclusions in questioning me before, too. No matter, I think he could take it, and clear it up himself.
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Do not speak of credibility. You have proved yourself thoroughly dishonest and so have less than anyone on TOL, except possible B57.