You could have instead of posting this.
ECT MAD implies both Jesus and Paul are liars.
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Brother Vinny
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You're right. I was hoping before I interjected my two cents I could avoid being a target in the poo-flinging contest, though.
dodge
New member
I guess if you disregard the scriptures that prove MAD is a lie are lies that does not leave you any resource to get out of the lies now does it ?
Hope springs eternal.
You have posted nothing that disproves MAD.
dodge
New member
Re-read the OP you ignored it pretty much lays the lies out for you. Truth is far more important than lies created by men.
Hi and what you SEEM to read is wrong and here are some resons why !!
#1 , Notice that SCRIPTURES /GRAMMA can be translated by the following !!
By , Letter , Record , espitle , Note , writing or Sacred Writings !!
#2 The verb ARE ABLE is in the PRESENT TENSE of the MYSTERY and NOT the OT !!
#3 , To make you wise unto salvation through FAITH , not Baptism or Repentance , BUT FAITH is what saves us today !!
#4, We should NOTICE that Timothy is " in Christ " AN Rom 16:7 does not apply because those in Romans were MESSANIC Jews !!
#5 And because of 2 Cor 3:13-17 , Israel has been set aside !!
I do commend you for bring up these ISSUES and I like replying !!
dan p
Brother Vinny
Active member
Alright, at the risk of getting hit by poo, let me start with a question or few to dodge:
What model do you adhere to in understanding God's relationship to his people? Acts 2 dispensational? Covenental theology?
What model do you adhere to in understanding God's relationship to his people? Acts 2 dispensational? Covenental theology?
Wrong again.
I read every word of it.
Only in you vivid imagination.
Dodge creates a lot of lies.
dodge
New member
The following verse would be a lie if MAD was correct.
2Ti 3:15
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Jesus would be a liar if MAD was right He said:
If they believe not Moses and the prophets neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.
MAD has no problem with that verse, or any verse.
The risen Lord Jesus Christ is the one that told
Paul what to teach.
MAD knows this.
Could you say "cult," one more time, and PUT IT IN CAPS, TO CLINCH THE DEBATE?
So, let me get this straight- You say MAD does NOT discuss the actual scriptures DE-rail the thread with pointless points? Is that it?
So, let me get this straight-you say MAD is a cult?
YOU QUOTED HER OUT OF CONTEXT!
So, let me get this straight-you say MAD diverts and de-rails?
glorydaz
Well-known member
You're wrong in assuming Paul thought the OT was all Timothy had or needed. The OT includes the law which is the schoolmaster until faith comes. Timothy's grandmother and mother heard the Gospel preached by Paul and believed...just as Timothy did (son begotten by the gospel). Paul also laid hands on Timothy when he was first saved.
Paul calls Timothy his son...whom he had begotten through the gospel. Timothy was saved when he believed Paul's Gospel.
1 Cor. 4:15-17
For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
2 Tim. 1:2-6 To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord. I thank God, whom I serve from my forefathers with pure conscience, that without ceasing I have remembrance of thee in my prayers night and day; Greatly desiring to see thee, being mindful of thy tears, that I may be filled with joy; When I call to remembrance the unfeigned faith that is in thee, which dwelt first in thy grandmother Lois, and thy mother Eunice; and I am persuaded that in thee also. Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.