ECT "Lordship 'Salvation'"-perverting the gospel of Christ

[Jacob]

OK. Do you like spinach? I don't.

Yes.

 

[God's Truth]

Do you repent each and every time that you sin?

Of course, because I have a High Priest, a family member, a friend in whom I confide in.

As for sins though, I do not sin as I did before I was saved.

Do you confess your sins daily, hourly, minutely, secondly?

If you were living through the Spirit, you would not ask such a question.

How many of my sins did Christ die for?

Christ died for all the sins that you REPENT of doing.

If you keep doing the sins, then you did not REPENT.

God does not ask you to pretend to repent. You have to really turn away from your sins.

If you still feel ugly and dirty and as a sinner all day every minute (as you said to me that you do), then how have you been saved?

Our obedience CANNOT earn us salvation.

We have to be obedient or you will not receive the Holy Spirit see Acts 5:32 tell me what it says and tell me how you can get out of it.

I have repented of my SIN and Jesus PAID the price.

Good for you. You went to the High Priest, Jesus Christ, and told him your sins and you repented of them. That is what you are supposed to do.

If Christ is YOUR high priest, then will must be in the priesthood of the nation of Israel and NOT in the body of Christ.

I am DEAD to sin by the body of Christ.

If you are still sinning then you are not dead to it.

Paul must have been completely negligent in his ministry, because TIME and TIME AGAIN, he tells us what we are JUSTIFIED by FAITH and he LEAVES out our obedience.

Paul never ever said we are saved by faith without obedience.

 

[God's Truth]

The WE in HEBREWS ain't YOU!

The Word of God is for everyone.

God is no respecter of persons.

 

[meshak]

I wonder how long John W will keep up with Jacob's patience.

John W is no match with Jacob in patience competition.

 

[Right Divider]

The Word of God is for everyone.

God is no respecter of persons.

Another complete misunderstanding of and TWISTING of scripture.

Do you NOT believe that God CHOSE Israel as HIS PEOPLE?

You are hopeless and lost.

 

[God's Truth]

Another complete misunderstanding of and TWISTING of scripture.

Do you NOT believe that God CHOSE Israel as HIS PEOPLE?

You are hopeless and lost.

The only reason that God chose Israel is because they were BLOOD related to Abraham.

The promise was that the Savior would be a BLOOD relative.

It is amazing how blind people are...ensnared by the devil.

Jesus came and was blood related to Abraham and David.

Now that Jesus has come, the only blood that matters is Jesus Christ's blood.

It does not matter to whom ANYONE is blood related.

 

[meshak]

God bless you Jacob.

You are showing good example of being patient and showing the other cheek.

It is not easy thing to do for most of us.

We can learn from you

 

[Danoh]

God bless you Jacob.

You are showing good example of being patient and showing the other cheek.

It is not easy thing to do for most of us.

We can learn from you

Either that, or its just one more instance of a lack of common sense on his part.

He does hang in there; I'll give him that...

Anyway, Jake (short for Jacob), back to the topic - "of the spirit; not of the letter."

What do you understand Paul had meant by that?

 

[Jacob]

Either that, or its just one more instance of a lack of common sense on his part.

He does hang in there; I'll give him that...

Anyway, Jake (short for Jacob), back to the topic - "of the spirit; not of the letter."

What do you understand Paul had meant by that?

I am not Jake I am Jacob.

The Spirit of God and the letter of what?

 

[Danoh]

What do you understand Paul had meant by "of the spirit; not of the letter"?

 

[Jacob]

What do you understand Paul had meant by "of the spirit; not of the letter"?

The Spirit of God.

 

[Danoh]

The Spirit of God.

But how do you know for sure? What are you basing your conclusion on?

Not only is that passage found in an entire chapter of information there, but there other chapters and passages where Paul also deals with that topic.

Because Paul, as usual, is being Paul; he often says much about one thing or another throughout his writings that helps shed light on other passages and visa versa.

As a result. I myself have returned to a view today that I had once held and that differs from the one I had posted on here earlier.

This, after running many passages.

So, again, how do you know what Paul is actually talking about is not just your own two cents about what he is talking about?

What is your basis - what passages? And what core ideas and principles are you basing your assertion on?

 

[Cross Reference]

But how do you know for sure? What are you basing your conclusion on?

Not only is that passage found in an entire chapter of information there, but there other chapters and passages where Paul also deals with that topic.

Because Paul, as usual, is being Paul; he often says much about one thing or another throughout his writings that helps shed light on other passages and visa versa.

As a result. I myself have returned to a view today that I had once held and that differs from the one I had posted on here earlier.

This, after running many passages.

So, again, how do you know what Paul is actually talking about is not just your own two cents about what he is talking about?

What is your basis - what passages? And what core ideas and principles are you basing your assertion on?

What spirit would suppose if not in agreement with God?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Your sins are washed away when you come to Jesus in faith that his blood washes away your sins that you confess and repent of doing.

How was Jesus raised up if my sins that he bore were not washed away first?
Was he under the new covenant?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

STP, you still have not explained how it is that Jesus cannot make a covenant.

Not sure what you're talking about.
Can God save someone without a covenant?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

I wonder how long John W will keep up with Jacob's patience.

John W is no match with Jacob in patience competition.

I, too, am impressed with Jacob's patience.
This reminds me of Mork vs. Fonz (saint john w)

 

[meshak]

Either that, or its just one more instance of a lack of common sense on his part.

I can see he has been trying to be spiritual all his life.

He is trying not to be worldly which is very hard for most of us.

He looks very cold because of that too. I don't know if that is good either but his intentions are good.

God is looking into our heart.

He is trying to be pure and holy and humble.

God cherishes his effort for sure.

 

[Right Divider]

The only reason that God chose Israel is because they were BLOOD related to Abraham.

The promise was that the Savior would be a BLOOD relative.

It is amazing how blind people are...ensnared by the devil.

Jesus came and was blood related to Abraham and David.

Now that Jesus has come, the only blood that matters is Jesus Christ's blood.

It does not matter to whom ANYONE is blood related.

A) Jacob (Israel) was NOT the only BLOOD relative of Abraham
B) There is a LOT more to God choosing Israel than JUST Jesus' blood
C) It's amazing how blind people are...ensnared by the devil (that's you).
D) You have an amazingly short-sighted view of what God teaches in the scripture.

 

[Right Divider]

Not sure what you're talking about.
Can God save someone without a covenant?

Yes

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Yes

Indeed, RD.

Like Paul, the only way for God to save us was to identify us in Christ's death, burial, and resurrection.
We, like Paul, do not qualify for the new covenant.

This grace wherein we stand is truly amazing.