I appreciate this, but I am single and live with my parents.
ECT "Lordship 'Salvation'"-perverting the gospel of Christ
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I appreciate this, but I am single and live with my parents.
I don't know how to answer your question. There is nothing wrong with being normal.
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Jesus is the New Covenant, the New Gospel.
SaulToPaul 2
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He bore my sins. He was judged for my sins.
How was he forgiven for my sins? Was he under the new covenant?
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Are you NOT able to read the QUOTE of the scripture that I put in my post that YOU replied to?
Jer 31:31-34 (AKJV/PCE)
(31:31) ¶ Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: (31:32) Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: (31:33) But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. (31:34) And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
You poor little child; do you think that the ONLY scriptures about the New Covenant have to have BOTH the WORDS "NEW" and "COVENANT" in them?
That is simply a very bad assumption. Here is one about it and it does NOT have those TWO words.
Ezek 11:13-20 (AKJV/PCE)
(11:13) ¶ And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel? (11:14) Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, (11:15) Son of man, thy brethren, [even] thy brethren, the men of thy kindred, and all the house of Israel wholly, [are] they unto whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem have said, Get you far from the LORD: unto us is this land given in possession. (11:16) Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come. (11:17) Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel. (11:18) And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence. (11:19) And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh: (11:20) That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
Even in the OLD covenant Gentiles could JOIN with Israel. That is NOTHING new.
The point is that you seem to think that obsolete means "done away with" or some such thing. It does not.
Is there a point?
You don't see it because it ignore it.
God made promises to Israel for over a thousand years. The fulfillment was CENTURIES later. So, YES, God does delay His fulfillment's.
It did not and Jeremiah 31:34 proves that.
Of the SPIRIT and NOT of the LETTER. The New Covenant is OF THE LETTER and will include Israel having the ability to KEEP the law (see Ezekiel 11:20).
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How was Jesus FORGIVEN for YOUR sins?
Think about what you are saying.
Jesus was NOT forgiven for your sins!
God the Father forgives your sins through Jesus.
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You have problems talking to everyone and it's NOT everyone's fault.
Even unbelievers have a spirit and a body. That's not the point.
Spiritual does NOT mean "completely removed from the physical world" as you seem to think that it does.
SaulToPaul 2
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He bore my sins. How could the Father raise him if he was not forgiven?
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LOL.
Look everyone GT finally admits that there is MORE THAN ONE GOSPEL!
If there is NEW one, then there must have been an OLD one..... and that's TWO right there!
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I'm trying to get GT to think logistically about what happened two thousand years ago, and how it is possible that God can save members of the Body of Christ without putting them under a covenant.
It's not going that well.
It's not going that well.
I was taught about this verse as a child, but I don't know that it was about the new covenant. If it is then can we say it has already been fulfilled?
If you want to know about the new covenant from the Bible you need to read where it says new covenant. This does not mean you cannot learn anything else, or from anything else in the Bible. But if you don't understand the verses that speak of the new covenant, why posit that there are other verses that speak of the new covenant that do not have the words new covenant?
The words new covenant are not here. The words new covenant are in Jeremiah.
Have you read the book of Romans where the prophecies about the Gentiles as a part of God's plan in Christ are mentioned?
I don't know where you get that from.
A point about what? We have Jeremiah, Jesus' earthly ministry, and the book of Hebrews.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
A delay implies God was going to do something but then didn't but then will, has, or did. I don't see this. When God says something will be or come to pass, it does.
I don't know what you are saying.
I do not agree with you. Something is wrong with what you are saying.
Nonsense, an earthly conversation also includes carnal or natural man notions of what the Scriptures are talking about.
You and yours have been doing just that - having an earthly conversation about a spiritual Book.
You...are..clueless...
It is sewn a natural body...the first man is of the earth; earthy.
Quit playing in dirt, GT.
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Jacob, it is CLEARLY NOT fulfilled. You can't just claim that it is to fulfill your need for it to be.
When the new covenant is in place, Israel will be PURGED of unbelievers and ALL will be faithful.
Boy oh boy, it is virtually impossible to communication with you.
My point is that there are MANY places in the Bible that talks about the new covenant where the TEXT does NOT say "new covenant". Why can't you understand that?
Your comprehension skills are so bad that you cannot be communicated with.
Like I said BEFORE, God's prophecies and promises are ALMOST NEVER FULFILLED IMMEDIATELY and always come in DUE TIME.
No, Jacob. It is you has a learning problem.
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Yikes.
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Everyone must come into the new covenant.
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As I have told everyone, there is a new gospel. The new gospel is the old gospel with some changes.
There is only one way, and it has ALWAYS been to believe and obey Jesus.
SaulToPaul 2
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Jeremiah spoke of the new covenant, and Jesus spoke of it before His death. Paul spoke of it afterward as having already come to be, and the writer of Hebrews recaps what happened with reference to Jeremiah. By fulfilled what is meant is not that the new covenant has been fulfilled, but that the new covenant has come to be or come to pass, as was prophesied.
I do not know how you have drawn this conclusion.
I understand you say that, but I have no way to prove it. Plus you are saying the new covenant did not come in Jesus Christ. I don't agree.
The new covenant did come. It was not immediate.
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because Jesus is God.
SaulToPaul 2
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What happened to my sins that he bore for me, before he was raised up?