Liberty ends when people are hurt. That has nothing to do with your suggestions. Most zoning laws and home owners rules are immoral. Private property and business are not the same thing.
Most, not all.
Libertarianism and property rights
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Liberty ends when people are hurt. That has nothing to do with your suggestions. Most zoning laws and home owners rules are immoral. Private property and business are not the same thing.
Most, not all.
In your case, yes. You need to learn and not post other than a question or two when you don't get it.
help me understand this
drbrumley calling me a socialist is worthy of discussion?
do you really need help with this?
only drbrumley needs help with this
For those of you that don't know TomO, this is his way of warming up before he gets serious and gives us the Libertarian version of property rights.
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Just so that the readers of this thread don't misunderstand you Lex, may I add the word "anything" to your sentence?
Now tell us some of the things that you can do with your private property Lex.
Try not to turn this thread into yet another one of your drama queen shows Art. If you have anything to say about property rights and what a person should be able to do with their land/buildings that they own, please do add to the discussion.
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Just so that the readers of this thread don't misunderstand you Lex, may I add the word "anything" to your sentence?
Now tell us some of the things that you can do with your private property Lex.
Try not to turn this thread into yet another one of your drama queen shows Art. If you have anything to say about property rights and what a person should be able to do with their land/buildings that they own, please do add to the discussion.
Is it lawful to do anything I want with my property. Given the laws of the state and county within which I reside, the answer is no.
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Pretend that I haven't extensively studied your cult Jr. and that I just fell off of the turnip truck last night.
Tell us how building safety codes and health dept. codes are a bunch of hogwash and that if a building collapses on your family while you're eating what you thought was chicken but was really a diseased rodent, that the word will get out and that the business will eventually shut down due to bad publicity.
Not only in the past, but currently. Do your own research and you'll find stories where many people have died because the owner of a building failed to comply with building safety and health codes.
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Pretend that I haven't extensively studied your cult Jr. and that I just fell off of the turnip truck last night.
Tell us how building safety codes and health dept. codes are a bunch of hogwash and that if a building collapses on your family while you're eating what you thought was chicken but was really a diseased rodent, that the word will get out and that the business will eventually shut down due to bad publicity.
Not only in the past, but currently. Do your own research and you'll find stories where many people have died because the owner of a building failed to comply with building safety and health codes.
shagster01
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Well it sounds like the laws are working well then. Keep it up.
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You tell me Nick. Is it lawful for a private property owner to do anything that he or she wants to do with his or her property?
Businesses are on private property. If you want to differentiate between what a residential homeowner should be able to do vs what a business owner should be able to do, we can do that.
Let's say that your next door neighbor whose house is 15 feet from yours put in his own electrical wiring. Aren't you glad that someone from your city came out and inspected the job so that you don't have to worry about your house catching fire if your neighbor did faulty electrical work?
The same goes with building codes. Would you feel better knowing that your neighbor's roof wasn't going to blow off during a windstorm and land on your house?
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
You tell me Nick. Is it lawful for a private property owner to do anything that he or she wants to do with his or her property?
Businesses are on private property. If you want to differentiate between what a residential homeowner should be able to do vs what a business owner should be able to do, we can do that.
Let's say that your next door neighbor whose house is 15 feet from yours put in his own electrical wiring. Aren't you glad that someone from your city came out and inspected the job so that you don't have to worry about your house catching fire if your neighbor did faulty electrical work?
The same goes with building codes. Would you feel better knowing that your neighbor's roof wasn't going to blow off during a windstorm and land on your house?
I see your insight into my modus operandi is as deficient as your insight into everything else. :think:
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Is it lawful for a private property owner to do anything that he or she wants to do with his or her property?
Then you're fine with your neighbor running a nightclub right next door to you?
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Is it lawful for a private property owner to do anything that he or she wants to do with his or her property?
Then you're fine with your neighbor running a nightclub right next door to you?
shagster01
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I've never seen anyone as paranoid as you. Must be that Seattle contact high.
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While I wait for Libertarians like drbrumley to show up and back up words like this that he said in another thread:
I need to emphasize that the private property rights that I'm talking about is with land and dwellings, NOT what Libertarian Murray Rothbard said parents should be able to do with their deformed baby.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...&postcount=460
Because you and I and pretty much everyone that isn't a Loonatarian believes in eminent domain (in this case so that the Keystone Pipeline can be constructed) according to drbrumley's post in another thread you're a socialist and a fascist.
The purpose of this thread is to expose Libertarians and their loony ideas when it comes to property rights.
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
While I wait for Libertarians like drbrumley to show up and back up words like this that he said in another thread:
I need to emphasize that the private property rights that I'm talking about is with land and dwellings, NOT what Libertarian Murray Rothbard said parents should be able to do with their deformed baby.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...&postcount=460
Because you and I and pretty much everyone that isn't a Loonatarian believes in eminent domain (in this case so that the Keystone Pipeline can be constructed) according to drbrumley's post in another thread you're a socialist and a fascist.
The purpose of this thread is to expose Libertarians and their loony ideas when it comes to property rights.
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For those of you that don't know TomO, this is his way of warming up before he gets serious and gives us the Libertarian version of property rights.
(Tom's still warming up).
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
For those of you that don't know TomO, this is his way of warming up before he gets serious and gives us the Libertarian version of property rights.
(Tom's still warming up).
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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Businesses are on private property. If you want to differentiate between what a residential homeowner should be able to do vs what a business owner should be able to do, we can do that.
Let's say that your next door neighbor whose house is 15 feet from yours put in his own electrical wiring. Aren't you glad that someone from your city came out and inspected the job so that you don't have to worry about your house catching fire if your neighbor did faulty electrical work?
The same goes with building codes. Would you feel better knowing that your neighbor's roof wasn't going to blow off during a windstorm and land on your house?
Let me phrase it so that even those with one live brain cell can understand it Doper:
Health and safety codes were made because of people like you.
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Businesses are on private property. If you want to differentiate between what a residential homeowner should be able to do vs what a business owner should be able to do, we can do that.
Let's say that your next door neighbor whose house is 15 feet from yours put in his own electrical wiring. Aren't you glad that someone from your city came out and inspected the job so that you don't have to worry about your house catching fire if your neighbor did faulty electrical work?
The same goes with building codes. Would you feel better knowing that your neighbor's roof wasn't going to blow off during a windstorm and land on your house?
Let me phrase it so that even those with one live brain cell can understand it Doper:
Health and safety codes were made because of people like you.
You don't read well, do you. I said that it is not lawful to do whatever one wants to do with their property.
The thread isn't about what is currently unlawful, it's about what those who believe in absolute property rights think they should be able to do with their property.
Feel free to share what you believe you should be able to do with your property even if it is currently unlawful (laws can change).
shagster01
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No. They were made because people like you who think your safety is somebody else's responsibility.
You want chicken and not rat? Raise chickens.
Remember that time when everyone's roofs were blowing off and killing their neighbors? Me neither.
You yourself said that many don't follow these laws anyway. Let me ask you, do you also think banning guns will stop criminals from using them? Did people stop smoking weed from the 70s-90s?
Go ahead and make your stupid laws. We break them with little or no consequence anyway.
Of course. Do you think a man should be able to pain his house as ugly as possible knowing it will devalue the neighbors house?
We will start right here.