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[Stripe]

Four Winged Dinosaur

Well, Alate. The opening scene of your video shows creatures running around, a great big eruption and then fossils found in between layers of rocks - crushed flat. And there is a close up description featuring Mark Norell of the excavation of fossils from the 5:30 mark (with description of the supposed environment beforehand).

We can be very certain that the portrayed idea of the burial event did not crush them flat and nor would it constrain them between layers. And if you freeze the image at 5:38 you can be very certain that these layers were not laid down by successive eruptions with intermittent returns to the habitat described. Nope, this all had to happen at once.

But you're not willing to hear an alternative explanation. :idunno:

 

[Alate_One]

Well, Alate. The opening scene of your video shows creatures running around, a great big eruption and then fossils found in between layers of rocks - crushed flat. And there is a close up description featuring Mark Norell of the excavation of fossils from the 5:30 mark (with description of the supposed environment beforehand).

We can be very certain that the portrayed idea of the burial event did not crush them flat and nor would it constrain them between layers. And if you freeze the image at 5:38 you can be very certain that these layers were not laid down by successive eruptions with intermittent returns to the habitat described. Nope, this all had to happen at once.

Why? Because you say so? You're no geological expert to be making pronouncements. Explain yourself and cite something.

But you're not willing to hear an alternative explanation. :idunno:

I'm happy to hear explanations that are based on evidence and not Stripe's just so stories.

 

[Stripe]

Why?

Do you think a layer of fine ash will crush flat an animal? Do you think subsequent layers of fine ash will form multiple layers of parallel and undisturbed fossil bearing strata? How do you think ash can be petrified?

It's OK to discuss these sorts of things, don't ya think? :idunno:

 

[Alate_One]

Do you think a layer of fine ash will crush flat an animal? Do you think subsequent layers of fine ash will form multiple layers of parallel and undisturbed fossil bearing strata? How do you think ash can be petrified?

It's OK to discuss these sorts of things, don't ya think? :idunno:

How thick of a layer do you think a volcano can produce in a short period of time?

 

[Stripe]

How thick of a layer do you think a volcano can produce in a short period of time?

Of fine ash? Not much. Typically well under a foot.

And we don't have to guess on this. We can clearly see the thickness of the layers in the video you so kindly provided. :up:

 

[Stripe]

We don't have to guess.

 

[Bob Enyart]

...science isn't decided in the debate hall, it's decided by the data.

Data like this . . . .

And A_O, in that data let's include original archaeopteryx biological material that's now been reported to have survived for 150 million years!

A_O, would you be willing to produce a theoretical falsification of neo-Darwinism? I've got some ideas along those lines that perhaps you might agree with. Evidently though, we'll have to omit soft dinosaur tissue and biological material remaining for 65 million years (t-rex), 80 million years (hadrosaur), and now 150 million years (archaeopteryx), because as soon as such soft tissue is proved to exist, evolutionists instantly accept that biological matter can endure for geologic ages. So I'm wondering. The New Testament even presents a method to falsify Christianity. Can you do what scientific disciplines often do, can you come up with a reasonable theoretical way to falsify Darwinism?

-Bob Enyart

 

[Alate_One]

A_O, would you be willing to produce a theoretical falsification of neo-Darwinism? So I'm wondering. The New Testament even presents a method to falsify Christianity. Can you do what scientific disciplines often do, can you come up with a reasonable theoretical way to falsify Darwinism?

Very simple. Find us a whale bone in the Cambrian, or shark teeth in the Cambrian alongside trilobites and pikia. Find birds in the Permian alongside our good friend Dimetrodon and Gorgonops.

 

[Stripe]

Very simple. Find us a whale bone in the Cambrian, or shark teeth in the Cambrian alongside trilobites and pikia. Find birds in the Permian alongside our good friend Dimetrodon and Gorgonops.

You want out of place fossils?