death2impiety
Maximeee's Husband
Many good points all around fellas. I've got to say though, Zman you are doing backflips trying to justify and levitate your faith as supreme but your logic is off.
It isn't that simple. This can easily be reverted back to fall of man. So, in your view, God got His way in causing the fall of man? ...In causing the death and damnation of human kind and in destroying a world He created that He called "good"? Did Adam's plan to remain perfect "fall through" because of God? If the answer is no the only alternative is to say that defying God was his original intention in the first place which God ordained...can't you see how ridiculous this is?
What is simple here is that your confusing yourself by adding hidden meaning to otherwise easy to interpret text. God can intervene in our lives to direct us when we ask or as He sees fit. Everything we do is not reliant on God's ultimate decsion. Our will is free, we can accept Gods guidance or reject it just like Adam and Eve.
You can think of any idea or plan that you wish, but the Lord's counsel, or His plan of action will stand. In other words, He always gets His way. Sometimes our plans come through, but it's not because of 'freewill' that God decided to let you have it 'your way' - it's because your plans and His ways were in unity. Sometimes our plans fall through, and that's because it wasn't what God had intended. It's that simple.
It isn't that simple. This can easily be reverted back to fall of man. So, in your view, God got His way in causing the fall of man? ...In causing the death and damnation of human kind and in destroying a world He created that He called "good"? Did Adam's plan to remain perfect "fall through" because of God? If the answer is no the only alternative is to say that defying God was his original intention in the first place which God ordained...can't you see how ridiculous this is?
What is simple here is that your confusing yourself by adding hidden meaning to otherwise easy to interpret text. God can intervene in our lives to direct us when we ask or as He sees fit. Everything we do is not reliant on God's ultimate decsion. Our will is free, we can accept Gods guidance or reject it just like Adam and Eve.