JOHN 3:16 IS THIS OUR GOSPEL?

Bright Raven

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Right Divider said:
Did John the baptizer believe in Jesus?
Did John the baptizer believe in His death, burial and resurrection?
Did John the baptizer believe in His vicarious work at the cross?

Why didn't Peter present the cross as good news in Act 1-8?

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This is only for those after the Cross.
 
k0de

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Right Divider said:
Did John the baptizer believe in Jesus?
Did John the baptizer believe in His death, burial and resurrection?
Did John the baptizer believe in His vicarious work at the cross?

Why didn't Peter present the cross as good news in Act 1-8?

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Huh?
 
k0de

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notreligus said:
John 3:16 is definitely the main theme of the Gospel. Only the son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, could have satisfied the Father's demand for the payment that would reconcile mankind back to Him.


This chapter of Romans is more expansive...

Rom 5:1 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Rom 5:2 Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
Rom 5:3 More than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance,
Rom 5:4 and endurance produces character, and character produces hope,
Rom 5:5 and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.
Rom 5:6 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom 5:7 For one will scarcely die for a righteous person-though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die-
Rom 5:8 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Rom 5:9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.
Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.
Rom 5:11 More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.
Rom 5:12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned-
Rom 5:13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.
Rom 5:15 But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.
Rom 5:16 And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification.
Rom 5:17 For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
Rom 5:18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.
Rom 5:19 For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous.
Rom 5:20 Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,
Rom 5:21 so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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But you didn't explain. Good scriptures though. So how is this chapter of Romans is more expansive...?
 
k0de

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Right Divider said:
Did you have something to add?

Perhaps you would like to answer those questions.
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Did John the baptizer believe in Jesus? No

Did John the baptizer believe in His death, burial and resurrection? No

Did John the baptizer believe in His vicarious work at the cross? No

Why didn't Peter present the cross as good news in Act 1-8? I don't know.

You're missing something.

Crazy questions. Why you ask?
 
Lon

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Right Divider said:
Did John the baptizer believe in Jesus?
Did John the baptizer believe in His death, burial and resurrection?
Did John the baptizer believe in His vicarious work at the cross?

Why didn't Peter present the cross as good news in Act 1-8?

You're missing something.
Click to expand...

Unless Hebrews 11 "By faith" is the connector? Ephesians 2:8&9 gives faith as the same connector? I realize this becomes a dispensations discussion, but such is a huge hurdle for these discussions. I agree MAD is a simple division of scriptures, but very often, especially reading Pauline letters, this seems a bit too simplistic. Peter certainly wrestled with Paul's concepts, but I'm not convinced MAD has the key that unlocks Pauline theology (perhaps an elongated discussion, but I think it helps to have some of these cards on the table so people can see what is at stake behind our respective comments). In Him -Lon
 
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