ECT Jesus Warns Pharisees

Nang

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The following warning from Jesus to the Pharisees is applicable to the MADists, in their state of delusion:

John 9:39-41
 

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The following warning from Jesus to the Pharisees is applicable to the MADists, in their state of delusion:

John 9:39-41

True

They say--

Joh 9:40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
Joh 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

Im other words MAD says it does not matter that they sin, for all men sin, and when they do then they were forgiven 2000 years ago.

A useless doctrine.

Heb 12:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
Heb 12:10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Heb 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
Heb 12:12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
Heb 12:13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.
Heb 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:


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Yes, why weren't you?

Christ forgives sin and sinners today from Gods Throne.

The provision was made for that 2000 years ago plus the wiping out of past sins at that time.

One must come to the throne of Grace today to receive forgiveness of sin/sins.

To rely upon your believing of a Bible doctrine in a twisted manner in order to avoid Acts 2 and the blood of the new covenant, the washing away of your sins, and the filling of the Holy Spirit is the folly of all unbelievers.

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Nang

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Made up.

Members of the Body of Christ were risen with him, when he was raised. And we could not have been raised with any sin upon us.

What is this? The "literalist" is spiritualizing Christ's bodily resurrection?

I would would say this (delusional) assertion is too mystical and therefore gnostic.

It certainly is a poor interpretation of what Paul taught in Romans 6:4-11 where Paul taught that believers were to "walk in newness of life" and "not to let sin reign in our mortal bodies." If Paul told us to reckon our sins to be dead, it meant sin is still part of our human nature.

This is not as bad as Johnny saying there was nothing "sacrificial" prophesied in Isaiah 53! That was a real loser of an argument

Both of you are not the brilliant apologists for MAD that you think you are. Both of you prove to be blind and dead in your spirits and minds.
 

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What is this? The "literalist" is spiritualizing Christ's bodily resurrection?

I would would say this (delusional) assertion is too mystical and therefore gnostic.

It certainly is a poor interpretation of what Paul taught in Romans 6:4-11 where Paul taught that believers were to "walk in newness of life" and "not to let sin reign in our mortal bodies." If Paul told us to reckon our sins to be dead, it meant sin is still part of our human nature.

This is not as bad as Johnny saying there was nothing "sacrificial" prophesied in Isaiah 53! That was a real loser of an argument

Both of you are not the brilliant apologists for MAD that you think you are. Both of you prove to be blind and dead in your spirits and minds.

Why were you not crucified, buried, and risen with him?
 

Lazy afternoon

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Made up.

Members of the Body of Christ were risen with him, when he was raised. And we could not have been raised with any sin upon us.

How can you say you were washed of your sin if you have not obeyed the gospel first delivered by Peter as to how to enter the Kingdom of God preached the same to both Jew and Gentile by both Peter and Paul.

Act 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
Act 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; Act 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
 

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Mark 12:13
13 Then they sent to Him some of the Pharisees and the Herodians, to catch Him in His words.
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Luke 11:53-54
53 And as He said these things to them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to assail Him vehemently, and to cross-examine Him about many things,
54 lying in wait for Him, and seeking to catch Him in something He might say, that they might accuse Him.
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Luke 12:1
1 In the meantime, when an innumerable multitude of people had gathered together, so that they trampled one another, He began to say to His disciples first of all, "Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
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Luke 20:22-26
22 "Is it lawful for us to pay taxes to Caesar or not?"
23 But He perceived their craftiness, and said to them, "Why do you test Me?
24 "Show Me a denarius. Whose image and inscription does it have?" They answered and said, "Caesar's."
25 And He said to them, "Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."
26 But they could not catch Him in His words in the presence of the people. And they marveled at His answer and kept silent.
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Luke 20:27-36
27 Then some of the Sadducees, who deny that there is a resurrection, came to Him and asked Him,
28 saying: "Teacher, Moses wrote to us that if a man's brother dies, having a wife, and he dies without children, his brother should take his wife and raise up offspring for his brother.
29 "Now there were seven brothers. And the first took a wife, and died without children.
30 "And the second took her as wife, and he died childless.
31 "Then the third took her, and in like manner the seven also; and they left no children, and died.
32 "Last of all the woman died also.
33 "Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife does she become? For all seven had her as wife."
34 And Jesus answered and said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage.
35 "But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;
36 "nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
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Matt 26:3-4
3 Then the chief priests, the scribes, and the elders of the people assembled at the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,
4 and plotted to take Jesus by trickery and kill Him.
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Mark 14:1
1 After two days it was the Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread. And the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take Him by trickery and put Him to death.
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Eph 4:11-14
11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,
12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;
14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,
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xxx Everyone is in the bible. If you want to know where your at, just compare yourself and what you believe with the Word of God.
We already have lots of Pharisees and church leaders in here.

xxx You have those who hold onto the old testament.

Gal 5:1-4
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
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xxx You have those who still try to justify their emotions.
Gal 5:24-26
24 And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.
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xxx You have those who are full of guile, and trickery, they change their name often so they won't be found out.

1 Pet 2:1
1 Therefore, laying aside all malice, all guile, hypocrisy, envy, and all evil speaking,
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xxx We have many in here arguing the bible claiming to know the truth and they are just full of bitter envy. They just want to control.

Phil 1:15-18
15 Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from good will:
16 The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains;
17 but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel.
18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.
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Rom 13:13-14
13 Let us walk properly, as in the day, not in revelry and drunkenness, not in lewdness and lust, not in strife and envy.
14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts.
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MannyO

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Can someone explain to me what a MADist is?

I keep seeing this term thrown around the forum... what does it mean?
 
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