JESUS: God's Predestinated Savior of the World

[Ben Masada]

Jesus - God's Predestinated Savior of the World.

I don't think so. The world has become many times worse as the condition of being lost is concerned since Jesus died than from before he was born. Who failed here, Jesus or God? If you ask me, none; neither Jesus nor God but Paul because the idea comes from his gospel aka the NT and not from the gospel of Jesus aka the Tanach.

 

[beloved57]

Jesus - God's Predestinated Savior of the World.

I don't think so. The world has become many times worse as the condition of being lost is concerned since Jesus died than from before he was born. Who failed here, Jesus or God? If you ask me, none; neither Jesus nor God but Paul because the idea comes from his gospel aka the NT and not from the gospel of Jesus aka the Tanach.

Do you think its much more golden calf worship now like the jews did ?

 

[Robert Pate]

Scripture is fine, your personal comments are invalid.

If scripture is fine, then why is it you don't believe it?

 

[patrick jane]

Jesus - God's Predestinated Savior of the World.

I don't think so. The world has become many times worse as the condition of being lost is concerned since Jesus died than from before he was born. Who failed here, Jesus or God? If you ask me, none; neither Jesus nor God but Paul because the idea comes from his gospel aka the NT and not from the gospel of Jesus aka the Tanach.

I don't like Judaizers

 

[beloved57]

If scripture is fine, then why is it you don't believe it?

I don't believe you, a man that denies that Christ death alone saved them He died for,making Him a failure!

 

[musterion]

I don't believe you, a man that denies that Christ death alone saved them He died for,making Him a failure!

Peter warned there are false teachers who can and will deny Him, bringing swift destruction upon themselves...even though He bought them.

How's that square with election, since according to you only the elect are "bought"?

 

[Robert Pate]

Peter warned there are false teachers who can and will deny Him, bringing swift destruction upon themselves...even though He bought them.

How's that square with election, since according to you only the elect are "bought"?

Good question, but I doubt if he will answer it.

 

[musterion]

He's ignoring every question I ask. I'm convinced he's a long game troll, a fake...despite his logically correct Calvinism. I found a website where atheists talk about having fun playing the long game on Christian websites. A few of them said being hardcore Catholics or Calvinist is their act. The positions are relatively simple to mimic, especially if one was raised in that religion. Would be much tougher and less fun to fake being, say, a hardcore Methodist.

 

[Ben Masada]

I don't like Judaizers

That's okay. You are not alone. When I read the Essay of Mark Twain about the Jews, I soon realized why some people don't like Jews. How about Christianizers, to you like them? I don't dislike them, though the problem is that they just don't have what it takes to Christianize a Jew.

 

[Robert Pate]

That's okay. You are not alone. When I read the Essay of Mark Twain about the Jews, I soon realized why some people don't like Jews. How about Christianizers, to you like them? I don't dislike them, though the problem is that they just don't have what it takes to Christianize a Jew.

If you are waiting for a Christian to Christianize you who is a Jew, forget it.

The law should tell you that you have missed the mark and stand before God's court as a sinner.

You may not believe that now, but you will believe it in the judgment.