Isn’t it ironic how Hanukkah can be found in a Christian bible but not in a modern Jewish one?

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I think it’s ironic how Hanukkah can’t be found in a modern Jewish bible, but it can be found in a Christian one. Catholic bibles have an Old Testament reference to it in Maccabees as well as a reference to it in the New Testament in the gospel of John. While it can be found in a Protestant bible, they only have a reference to it in the New Testament because they follow the Pharisee canon of scripture which excludes 7 books of the Old Testament, of which are 1 and 2 Maccabees.

Hanukkah or the Feast of the Dedication (Scriptural)

“Also called the Feast of the Machabees and Feast of Lights (Josephus and Talmudic writings), mentioned in the Old Testament (1 Maccabees 4:56), and in the New (John 10:22).” (Catholic Source

“The story of how Hanukkah came to be is contained in the books of 1 and 2 Maccabees, which are not part of the Jewish canon of the Hebrew Bible.” (Jewish Source)

“Chanukah is not mentioned in Jewish scripture; the story is related in the book of the Maccabbees, which Jews do not accept as scripture.”
(Jewish Source)

 

[chair]

Why ironic? It simply missed the boat canon-wise.

 

[Trump Gurl]

Why ironic?

Why do you think it is in my OT and not yours?

 

[chair]

Why do you think it is in my OT and not yours?

What do you think is the reason?

 

[Trump Gurl]

Catholics and Eastern Orthodox have 1 and 2 Maccabees in our Old Testament.
The explanation, if you are interested, is here: https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/defending-the-deuterocanonicals-996

 

[chair]

Catholics and Eastern Orthodox have 1 and 2 Maccabees in our Old Testament.
The explanation, if you are interested, is here: https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/defending-the-deuterocanonicals-996

Ah, the well-known council of Javneh, which likely never happened.

 

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Ah, the well-known council of Javneh, which likely never happened.

Why do you say that?

 

[chair]

Why do you say that?

read the link.
In case you missed it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Jamnia

The Council of Jamnia, presumably held in Yavneh in the Holy Land, was a hypothetical[1][2][3] late 1st-century CE council at which the canon of the Hebrew Bible was formerly believed to have been finalized and which may also have been the occasion when the Jewish authorities decided to exclude believers in Jesus as the Messiah from synagogue attendance, as referenced by interpretations of John 9:22 in the New Testament.[4] The writing of the Birkat haMinim benediction is attributed to Shmuel ha-Katan at the supposed Council of Jamnia.

The theory that Jamnia finalised the canon, first proposed by Heinrich Graetz in 1871,[5] was popular for much of the 20th century. However, it was increasingly questioned from the 1960s onward, and the theory has been largely discredited.[6]

Here is a video. Catholic:

 

[chair]

I gather this subject is finished, though Hanukah has a few days left...

 

[Lon]

I gather this subject is finished

Not sure. Maccabees is certainly Jewish history and its celebration the reason for Hanukah. What place does Maccabees have in Jewish lives?

 

[chair]

Not sure. Maccabees is certainly Jewish history and its celebration the reason for Hanukah. What place does Maccabees have in Jewish lives?

The event (not the book) is celebrated every year. The book isn't part of the Jewish Canon, so it doesn't get much attention. Note that we celebrate the Exodus every year too. The event- not the book. But in that case the book is one of the Five Books of Moses, so it gets a lot more attention.