Which salute? This one:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/
Is White Privilege Real?
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Which salute? This one:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/
Safety. Trust. Jobs. Good schools.
It doesn't. It's a matter of how other people treat you, not "whiteness itself".
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
that nice friendly white man was just giving a nice friendly wave :idunno:
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
most crime suffered by blacks is perpetrated by blacks
would you trust someone who's going to negatively impact your safety?
would you hire someone who's not trustworthy?
not in my neck of the woods - the city schools have more money spent on them than the suburbs
and they're still disgraceful
glassjester
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Swap all the staff from an inner city school with the staff of a suburban school, and those urban kids will all magically start doing their homework, coming to school on time, and studying, right?
Did you write "inner city" instead of "black" so that you could avoid saying that?
You should go back to my first post...I think it was about 113. I left about five links to quick articles that will address most of what you're looking for and a couple of them are fairly entertaining. None of them are difficult or very long reads.
It's not the geography so much as the history that should school you on the point. And it's not suburban privilege, so let's keep our terms straight forward. We're talking about the privileges that accrue by virtue of being in the dominant race within the compact, the one that has historically held power and means.
You should check out the links.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
which privileges are those?
be precise and succinct
if you read them, you ought to be able to provide some high points
:think: you didn't read them, did you?
glassjester
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No, I wrote inner city instead of black because I don't believe that race-based privilege exists in the United States.
glassjester
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There's no race privilege, or suburban privilege, or geography privilege.
There is, however, values privilege, two-parent home privilege, not-committing-crimes privilege, high school graduate privilege...
But we weren't talking about inner cities.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
you were talking about good schools
he was comparing good schools to bad schools
most bad schools are in the inner city
glassjester
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Yep. Should have been an easy inference...
Then you're profoundly mistaken. The only question is whether it's a lack of exposure or willful and rooted in something else. My hope is that it's the former, which is why I presented you with more than my opinion on the point. The fact is that if you're white you'll by and large be treated better by most people than your similarly situated black counterpart. And that's just the most benign expression of white privilege.
PBS had an interesting program on the subject a bit ago approaching the subject from another angle. It was on the heels of that Oklahoma fraternity were members were caught on video chanting "There will never be a n-word in SAE." They were looking at attitudes rooted in race across age groupings. The study looked at four age groupings: 17-34, 35-49, 50-64, and 65+.
Between 30 and 35% of whites believed that blacks are lazy. The high end was among the Baby Boomers. Between 18 and 24% believed black people are unintelligent. Between 24 to 36% believed blacks face little to no discrimination, which is funny when you consider most of them have evidenced disriminatory inclinations. I mean, who among them would hire someone they believed was inherently lazy and stupid? Between 8 to 20% declared they had never admired a black person, with the higher figure found among the younger respondents, surprisingly.
Now that means, on average, the average young black goes out into a world dominated by a race where nearly 4 in 10 presuppose he's lazy and two and ten think they're stupid. And the 50-64 crowd, disproportionately the money holders and deciders on futures, are in the high end of those unfavorable inclinations, along with being the most inclined to believe blacks don't face discrimination.
You know who doesn't have to overcome those suppositions? White people.
Then there's the ethnocentric principle. It essentially notes the tendency of people to find comfort and value in that which is most like themselves. Put that together, before you get to the other offerings I've given you by the links, and you begin to see the impossibility of holding your opinion when you have sufficient information about even the foundational truths and impact of race.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
nonsense
i'm white and when i've been on hiring committees or had to supervise contract workers, i've been convinced that most whites are lazy, stupid and untrustworthy
and i'll tell you why
it's not because i'm racist
it's because most people of any color, are lazy, stupid and untrustworthy
the fact that you are blind to this just tells me one thing
you're lazy and stupid
but not untrustworthy
i can always trust that your argumentation, when it comes to race, will be lazy and stupid :banana:
glassjester
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You beat me to it.
glassjester
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It's a bit of a nebulous bogeyman, this white privilege.
Why can't we pin down any particular laws or policies that favor whites?
I can easily think of past examples, such as legal slavery, jim crow laws.
But what about now? Anything like that now?
And any word yet, on how Asians overcame white privilege?
