Is marital rape scripturally defensible?

[Arsenios]

marital rape does not exist in a marriage between two Christians

Are you married?

A.

 

[ok doser]

i was

 

[Arsenios]

i don't give a ratz patooty what mooslims do in the islamic world

It does show that absence of sexual provocation does not rule out sexual intrusions...

Arsenios

 

[ok doser]

It does show that absence of sexual provocation does not rule out sexual intrusions...

Arsenios

in that culture, mixing the genders is considered sexual provocation

because they're backward morons

 

[Arsenios]

i was

Why not married now?

Widower?

A.

 

[Arsenios]

in that culture, mixing the genders is considered sexual provocation

because they're backward morons

They share your belief that there is no such thing as rape in a marriage...

A.

 

[ok doser]

she cheated on me and moved out

it's over

 

[Arsenios]

she cheated on me and moved out

it's over

You see, if you had been successfully married for, say, 40 years or so, had a wife and children who loved you and grand-children too, and said that there is no such thing as rape in a Christian marriage, then your words would have more impact...

As it is, when someone says such a thing from the perspective of a failed marriage, one suspects that the pronouncement is from the perspective of failure in marriage, and carries an absence of impact...

This is called the "Ontological Argument"...

It is one I missed in my years as an atheist.

Arsenios

 

[ok doser]

You see, if you had been successfully married for, say, 40 years or so, had a wife and children who loved you and grand-children too, and said that there is no such thing as rape in a Christian marriage, then your words would have more impact...

As it is, when someone says such a thing from the perspective of a failed marriage, one suspects that the pronouncement is from the perspective of failure in marriage, and carries an absence of impact...

This is called the "Ontological Argument"...

It is one I missed in my years as an atheist.

Arsenios

married for 32 years

raised two boys to adulthood

 

[Arsenios]

married for 32 years

raised two boys to adulthood

May God bless your boys and your efforts...

But successful marriages do not end in infidelity and divorce...

My own parents were married and divorced to and from each other twice... Coming apart was bitter and vicious for them...

I never married...

Arsenios

 

[ok doser]

For anyone actually following the argument, if you're raped, the fault, blame and guilt attach singularly to the person who willfully forced himself upon you. It was his willful act that caused the harm, not your deciding to go for a run alone ...

if you decide to go for a run alone, doped up on roofies and vodka tonics, stark naked, through a stadium full of drunken frat boys....


You Didn't Do Anything Wrong!



see: Mary,

Who Didn't Do Anything Wrong!

 

[ok doser]

Mothers have known this for generations. And no boy caught with his hand in the cookie jar blames the cookie.

did your mom leave the cookie jar down where you could reach it?

 

[annabenedetti]

TH: as you can see, sod's waiting impatiently for your return.

 

[ok doser]

TH: as you can see, sod's waiting impatiently for your return.

nah - i don't care if he responds or not - my point is made with my posts


town's a tard

 

[Arsenios]

did your mom leave the cookie jar down where you could reach it?

I think everyone gets your point that carnal attire and actions attract carnal responses...

But in a Christian marriage,
when she SAYS no,
then it IS no...
And IF the husband refuses to honor his wife
and
forces himself upon her,
then he is committing rape...

Don't you agree?

Arsenios

 

[Angel4Truth]

As soon as the word "no" is uttered, it's clear there is no consent.

I disagree, when the no is issued after the act or during it, which was the scenarios were.

I completely agree if its beforehand.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Exactly. Amazing that some here seem to think the majority of rapes must only happen to strippers and half naked women pressing themselves up against men. Oh, and what was it? Naked women walking through a men's prison, or something like that?

Cite or lie. No one has said any such lie. Wow, you are becoming more and more desperate. Its really sad to watch.

 

[glorydaz]

Cite or lie. No one has said any such lie. Wow, you are becoming more and more desperate. Its really sad to watch.

The desperate are forced to lie. It isn't their fault.

 

[annabenedetti]

Cite or lie. No one has said any such lie. Wow, you are becoming more and more desperate. Its really sad to watch.

Don't go into hysterics. I was making the point that the only scenarios given to justify that argument are the extreme scenarios that are unlikely to happen. If you don't like what I say, put me on ignore, because I'm going to say it.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Don't go into hysterics. I was making the point that the only scenarios given to justify that argument are the extreme scenarios that are unlikely to happen. If you don't like what I say, put me on ignore, because I'm going to say it.

:rotfl: I think you need to get a mirror and a dictionary.