What say you?
Is Jesus the Father?
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When you see Jesus one day, are you going to wonder when you will see the Father?
Gonna vote the poll?
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Going to answer the question?
Jesus said that if you have seen Me you have seen the Father. I say no, but I do not know what that means.
Why? You already know the answer.
In the sense Jesus is God and God is one, the answer is yes. When one considers the personas of God relating to humans, then the Father is the Creator, and the Son is the Logos, as well, the Holy Spirit is God, but God working through the soul with regeneration and Grace.
The human Jesus was Son of God. Yet God is one, and beyond the temporal, Jesus, who is God, did not become a new part of God at a latter time.
Are we one with God?
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So one day when you see Jesus, you are not going to say where is the Father? If Jesus is not the Father, why won't you say it?
Your question does not make any sense.
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I tried to pick no, but your poll doesn't allow me to vote. Jesus cant be God and Jesus cant be the Father.
Origin of Gods Word.
Gods Word originated from God the Father. It had to be given to Jesus by the Father.
John 1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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Gods Word did NOT originate from Jesus. Jesus got the Word from God the Father.
John 12:48-50
48 "He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him-- the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.
49 "For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.
50 "And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak."
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Gods Word did NOT originate from the Holy Spirit. Jesus got the Word from God the Father, and the Holy Spirit only quotes what Jesus said.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
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The Holy Spirit is NOT allowed to speak to us any other way.
John 16:13-14
13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.
14 "He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you.
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This is where the Godhead came from. All three are rooted and grounded in the Word of God. All three only speak Gods Word. But only one of them is God. That would be the Father.
We are trying to deal with the Word of God in the very same way that Jesus dealt with the Word. He is our example. It didnt make Jesus God, and it isnt going to make us God.
John 17:1-3
1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
2 "as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.
3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
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John 20:17
17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
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1 Cor 8:5-6
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords),
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
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I voted no too but did not show my vote either.
I guess they put us on different category.
The Father is not the Son, and He is not the Spirit. 1st Peter 1:2 KJV
The Father is spirit, but it is the Holy Spirit function to regenerate the soul.
Hmmm. You should be able to vote until a vote is accepted, or check with Knight to see why not.
keypurr
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glorydaz
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No, God is ONE being, with ONE NAME....Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
We will see GOD. Stop mocking the Nature of God just because you refuse to believe what is written.