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"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all". James 2:10
ECT Is James not speaking of man's flesh:
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Today that means if you think you can follow the law then you are guilty if you don't, even in one tiny point of the law you are guilty of the whole law. That's why it's important to understand the audience of each Bible author.
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When Paul speaks of it in Romans 7, what law is it is he referring to? Who is he addressing?
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So again: When Paul speaks of it in Romans 7, what law is it is he referring to? Who is he addressing? I think a good re-read of the chapter and up to vs2 of chapter 8 should say something that identifies where our battle lies.
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See Vs 1-2 Chapter 8 of Romans.
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But isn't His Holiness not also revealed to our flesh that when confronted contrary to its own desires, a warfare happens? Who demonstrated this more than Cain when God spoke to him before he killed Abel?
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I think Paul teaches on that when he mentions how the flesh battles against The Holy Spirit who indwells every believer. As for Cain he didn't have the indwelling Spirit and just plain jealousy ate him up and a murderous rage ensued.
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I think Paul teaches on that when he mentions how the flesh battles against The Holy Spirit who indwells every believer. As for Cain he didn't have the indwelling Spirit and just plain jealousy ate him up and a murderous rage ensued.
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I find Paul's teaching re flesh battles in Romans 7 when speaking of the law as contrasted to God's law. Do you see it there as well?
Re Cain: True there was no indwelling but, there was God Himself bringing the contrast to Cain for him as a test to prove him per Gen. 4:7. That is was testing is all about that even Jesus had to submit to them in the wilderness and for the same reason. We might even say that being convicted is for the same reason. I believe Paul would agree, given his declarations in Rom 7. What say you?
You want what the other has. Those are your thoughts that come from your mind. Same as lust. No action, yet still sin.
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But, doesn't Paul say, "covet the best gifts"? Where can be the sin in that?
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I see where you're coming from and so far I would agree. Jesus was of course tempted in the wilderness but not for the same reason. The Lord did not need to be proved as do all of us. Isa. 7:15 teaches that The Messiah shall know to choose the good because God gives not The Spirit by measure to Him. Jn. 3:34.
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Then why Isa 7:15 if not that Jesus still had to learn the ways of His Father per John 17:17 and as He prayed we would do in like manner? Why temptation if Jesus was God? God can't be tempted. Satan knew that. If Jesus was God then He could never have been our example in life.
In this, Jesus was perfect man in all He portrayed in His flesh, but, not yet was He God. He even said so. His transfiguration needed to be finalized and yet still, as Glorified Man, would sit at the right of God waiting for all things to be summed up in Him. If you understand you will realize how all truly born again, fit into that completion. . .
! . . .as an heir of God and joint heirs with Jesus Christ!!!
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Very astute of you to recognize that those first verses in Romans 8 are needed in order to fully understand Romans 7.
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