PneumaPsucheSoma
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Yeah, it's a bit freaky.:up::cloud9::jump:
Is disliking someone a sign of no faith?
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Yeah, it's a bit freaky.:up::cloud9::jump:
She has placed her trust in herself and will be judged on it. So I snicker at most of what she has to say.
Thunder's Muse
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Too bad for those who reject the faith (1 Tim. 1:19, 20).
"Too bad." :chz4brnz: ~ Seth Brundle, The Fly
"1 Ti 1:20 Hymenaeus and Alexander. Hymenaeus is mentioned in 2 Tim. 2:17 in connection with Philetus, another false teacher. Alexander may be the opponent of the faith referred to in 2 Tim. 4:14, 15. Nothing else is known about these two men (see note on v. 3). I delivered to Satan. Paul put both men out of the church, thus ending their influence and removing them from the protection and insulation of God’s people. They were no longer in the environment of God’s blessing but under Satan’s control. In some instances God has turned believers over to Satan for positive purposes, such as revealing the genuineness of saving faith, keeping them humble and dependent on Him, enabling them to strengthen others, or offering God praise (cf. Job. 1:1–22; Matt. 4:1–11; Luke 22:31–33; 2 Cor. 12:1–10; Rev. 7:9–15). God hands some people over to Satan for judgment, such as King Saul (1 Sam. 16:12–16; 28:4–20), Judas (John 13:27), and the sinning member in the Corinthian church (see notes on 1 Cor. 5:1–5). may learn not to blaspheme. See note on v. 13. Paul learned not to blaspheme when confronted by the true understanding of the law and the gospel. That was what those men needed. God, the inspired text seems to indicate, would teach them and show them grace as he had Paul. But that evangelistic work could not go on at the expense of the purity of the church.
2:1–8 The Ephesian church had evidently stopped praying for the lost, since Paul urged Timothy to make it a priority again. The Judaistic false teachers in Ephesus, by a perverted gospel and the teaching that salvation was only for Jews and Gentile proselytes to Judaism, would have certainly restricted evangelistic praying. Religious exclusivism (salvation only for the elite) would preclude the need for prayer for the lost.
2:1 supplications. The Gr. word is from a root that means “to lack,” “to be deprived,” or “to be without.” Thus this kind of prayer occurs because of a need. The lost have a great need for salvation, and believers should always be asking God to meet that need. intercessions. This word comes from a root meaning “to fall in with someone,” or “to draw near so as to speak intimately.” The verb from which this word derives is used of Christ’s and the Spirit’s intercession for believers (Rom. 8:26; Heb. 7:25). Paul’s desire is for the Ephesian Christians to have compassion for the lost, to understand the depths of their pain and misery, and to come intimately to God pleading for their salvation. See notes on Titus 3:3...
Tit 3:3 ourselves. It is not that every believer has committed every sin listed here, but rather that before salvation every life is characterized by such sins. That sobering truth should make believers humble in dealing with the unsaved, even those who are grossly immoral and ungodly. If it weren’t for God’s grace to His own, they would all be wicked. See note on 1 Pet. 3:15; cf. 2 Tim. 2:25. For other lists of sins, see Rom. 1:18–32; 1 Cor. 6:9, 10; Gal. 5:19–21; Eph. 4:17–19." MacArthur, J., Jr. (Ed.). (1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed., p. 1888). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.
Spitfire
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I made the mistake of trying to make sense of that statement and I now I've hurt my brain again.
IMJ... what on Earth do you mean??
Love for the brethern is a indication that you are a believer (Jn 13:34).
If you do not naturally love your brother in Christ, it is doubtful that you are a Christian. We don't care what odd traits you have. :freak: If you love the Lord, we love you. :straight:
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? [1 John 4:20].
"I didn’t say this; John said it. John says that if you say you love God and hate your brother, you are a liar.
"For he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?" There is a great deal of nonsense and pious hypocrisy going on today even in our fundamental churches. If we do not love our brother, then we do not love God either." McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Epistles (1 John) (electronic ed., Vol. 56, p. 138). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
If you do not naturally love your brother in Christ, it is doubtful that you are a Christian. We don't care what odd traits you have. :freak: If you love the Lord, we love you. :straight:
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? [1 John 4:20].
"I didn’t say this; John said it. John says that if you say you love God and hate your brother, you are a liar.
"For he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?" There is a great deal of nonsense and pious hypocrisy going on today even in our fundamental churches. If we do not love our brother, then we do not love God either." McGee, J. V. (1991). Thru the Bible commentary: The Epistles (1 John) (electronic ed., Vol. 56, p. 138). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
Of course it begs the question "Who is my Brother?"
Aimiel
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It does make one 'superior' but only in one's mind. To God, it's a step in the wrong direction.
Matthew 23:12
And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
We aren't expected to tolerate everyone or even 'like' everyone. We love even the un-lovely, but that doesn't necessarily make us like them. Many people are abrasive on purpose. They want to rub people the wrong way so that they can try to make themselves look superior. We see this every day on TOL. Many people are un-lovely, even though they profess Christianity. If I were non-Christian, most of these folks would make me run FROM God rather than towards Him.
I can't bear to watch anything suffer. But since my husband passed away I must set mouse traps and dispose of contents myself.
It is, sometimes, a ghastly business.
Well done. :up:
First there is the issue that the author is writing to the circumcision who is bound the law, and they were not baptized into the Body. So says Paul. A remnant is.
Thunder's Muse
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PureX
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I agree. I just try to respond to the post in front of me, if I can, and not let myself imagine that I know the heart and mind of the person who wrote it. That's not totally possible for me to avoid, but, I do try.
I don't really think of anyone here as being "better" than anyone else. It's just that some people think more clearly, express themselves more reasonably, and behave more positively than others.
But it's not a virtue contest. It's just people interacting however they are able.
The minute it becomes a contest it means that someone thinks he/she is better than someone else.
Thunder's Muse
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I think it has a lot to do with self esteem.
If ones self esteem is based on what other people think, then acting superior helps them feel better about themselves.
But if your self esteem is based on yourself, there is no need to feel superior.
Pretty basic and just my opinion, of course
Aimiel
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You're very welcome.Thank You, Aimiel
In regards to the OP ... no, I don't believe it's a sign of no faith. It's human. Certain people just rub me the wrong way also. I can usually overlook little annoyances.
I don't think there is anything wrong with disliking people who go out of their way to be hurtful, hateful and deceitful. I figure the best way to respond is to be completely dismissive of them until the time comes when they deal with their hostility.
I don't think there is anything wrong with disliking people who go out of their way to be hurtful, hateful and deceitful. I figure the best way to respond is to be completely dismissive of them until the time comes when they deal with their hostility.
Thunder's Muse
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Have you used the glue pad? If ever there was the "better mouse trap", that is it.
No, but I will try it. Thanks
Sounds reasonable. I had a great few weeks off and came back with a positive context and an indifference to old conflicts. Took a few people off ignore and back they scurried into the same attention getting and low tactics...I've decided to adopt the dismissive. There's just no reason to take people seriously who aren't serious/mature as human beings. And by that last I don't mean overly serious, because God knows this place can use all the frivolity it can muster.