I'm with McCain: "ashamed" of my country..

drbrumley

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Try making yourself familiar with word definitions. You're worse than the people who try to redefine "racism" to exclude the possibility of members of minorities from being racist (because they lack power in society).

He is right. Nazi's are leftists..
 

Tinark

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Totally agree with you.

The facts of the matter are that an armed rebellion with Russian support has taken over land belonging to Ukraine. No propaganda needed to determine what's happening here. There is nothing unusual about a country defending its territorial integrity and cracking down on rebellion, especially when it is fueled by foreign influences (Russia). We aren't talking about an armed rebellion against a dictatorship, but a peaceful democracy.
 

drbrumley

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The facts of the matter are that an armed rebellion with Russian support has taken over land belonging to Ukraine.

The facts of the matter are that an armed rebellion with Russian support has taken over land belonging to Ukraine AFTER an elected government and President were OVERTHROWN in a coup which an armed rebellion with US and UK support took over an entire nation (includes said land). The difference is only the former president didn't fight back as this president has done. Quite simple.

No propaganda needed to determine what's happening here. There is nothing unusual about a country defending its territorial integrity and cracking down on rebellion, especially when it is fueled by foreign influences (Russia). We aren't talking about an armed rebellion against a dictatorship, but a peaceful democracy.

Maybe you didn't watch the videos of the protests.
 

Tinark

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The facts of the matter are that an armed rebellion with Russian support has taken over land belonging to Ukraine AFTER an elected government and President were OVERTHROWN in a coup which an armed rebellion with US and UK support took over an entire nation (includes said land). The difference is only the former president didn't fight back as this president has done. Quite simple.

Are you aware that Ukraine's parliament voted the president _out_ of office? That is not a coup. Ukraine's military did not march on Parliament and remove the President from power.

Maybe you didn't watch the videos of the protests.

Protests are a function of democracy. The people were sick and tired of Russia stepping in and telling the country what it may or may not do, and wanted the Russian stooge out (who is now wanted on corruption and embezzlement charges).
 

Tinark

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Some Blacks can are indeed are. Please tell me your not this naïve to use this as an example.

If I make up my own definitions of words (like you are doing when you make up your own definition of "left wing" to classify Nazism as left wing), then I am correct in saying blacks can't be racist by using a different definition of "racism" than you use.
 

The Barbarian

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If Reagan had been in office when ISIS first killed those Americans on videotape...

Well... Need i say more?

He would have called out the army, t he navy, etc... and kicked---

He would have given those jihadists phsycos what thye ask for:

DEATH

Well, let's take a look...

The Beirut Barracks Bombings (October 23, 1983, in Beirut, Lebanon) occurred during the Lebanese Civil War when two truck bombs struck separate buildings housing United States and French military forces—members of the Multinational Force (MNF) in Lebanon—killing 299 American and French servicemen. An obscure group calling itself 'Islamic Jihad' claimed responsibility for the bombings...These attacks eventually led to the withdrawal of the international peacekeeping force from Lebanon, where they had been stationed since the withdrawal of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) following the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing

That showed 'em.

How's it going with terrorists since then?

U.S. airstrikes have killed two top-level and one mid-level ISIS leader, a senior U.S. military official tells CNN.

Haji Mutazz was Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's deputy in Iraq; Abd al Basit was his military emir in Iraq; and Radwan Talib was his Mosul emir. Their deaths resulted from multiple strikes going back to mid-November -- it has taken until now to determine conclusively they were killed.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/18/politics/u-s-air-strikes-kill-3-high-level-isis-leaders/

images


Yeah, things are different now.
 

aikido7

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John McCain was the one who pronounced the economy "sound" when we were all in the midst of a second Great Depression.

He is just as silly and fallible as anyone else.
 

drbrumley

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Are you aware that Ukraine's parliament voted the president _out_ of office? That is not a coup. Ukraine's military did not march on Parliament and remove the President from power.

I'm aware. You are aware that the process was not constitutional by Ukraine's written constitution right? Or are you just trying to rearrange the deck chairs?

Protests are a function of democracy. The people were sick and tired of Russia stepping in and telling the country what it may or may not do, and wanted the Russian stooge out (who is now wanted on corruption and embezzlement charges).

And you tell me the Russians are good at propaganda.

Town of Velikaya Znamenka speaking against the war - Zaporozhie, Ukraine


Seems to me, you are on the wrong side.
 

Krsto

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The Russians in East Ukraine want to be in Russia, not Ukraine. You got a problem with that or is real estate so darned important it's worth causing another war over it? Is it really that big of a deal if that real estate and the Russians on it are under the Russian government that they want to be under and not the Ukrainian government? You priorities are messed up.
 

The Barbarian

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He would've traded weapons for the hostages. Ooooh!

He did. But when he gave the Iranians weapons, they just laughed at him and kept the hostages.

Later, those weapons were used against our Navy pilots keeping the Strait of Hormuz open.
 

Nick M

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Try making yourself familiar with word definitions.

Obama is a Nazi. Commies and Nazis share ideologies. Nationals socialism is the end goal. It is the redistribution of wealth and the prohibition of free trade.
 

Levolor

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You think good and hard about that you fool.

the Bible says if you call someone a fool you are in danger of Hellfire

It doesn't say that to me, it says it to the circumcision.

Regardless that I think you are completely incorrect about this, you honor St. Paul's instruction, and he says to: but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. Philippians 2:3b

Of course, I suppose it is possible that you esteem yourself to be lower than a fool?
 

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I am actually proud of our country... what it was before this Admin took over

If Reagan had been in office when ISIS first killed those Americans on videotape...

Well... Need i say more?

He would have called out the army, t he navy, etc... and kicked---

He would have given those jihadists phsycos what thye ask for:

DEATH

Why do "we" not want to accommodate them?

we want them gone, THEY want to be gone..

What's the problem here???? :confused::confused:

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Reagan, in his infinite wisdom, had the CIA spend $billions to suppy those Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan with weapons to fight the Russians.

They were referred to as "freedom fighters" back in the 1980's as long as they were killing nasty Russians - but once they succeeded and turned those same weapons on Americans, they suddenly became "terrorists."

American foreign policy has become one continuous cycle of trying to undo the messes created by those "quick fixes" made by previous Administrations decades earlier.
 
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TomO

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Reagan, in his infinite wisdom, had the CIA spend $billions to suppy those Islamic fundamentalists in Afghanistan with weapons to fight the Russians.

We even sent them Rambo. :noway:

First Blood III


They were referred to as "freedom fighters" back in the 1980's as long as they were killing nasty Russians - but once they succeeded and turned those same weapons on Americans, they suddenly became "terrorists."

:idunno: Well...Yeah. If they don't want to be the Good-Guys™ any more then they don't get a Good-Guy™ name.

We sent them Rambo and they repaid us by becoming Evil-Doers™ . :p

American foreign policy has become one continuous cycle of trying to undo the messes created by those "quick fixes" made by previous Administrations decades earlier.


Same as it ever was. :plain:
 

republicanchick

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Regardless that I think you are completely incorrect about this, you honor St. Paul's instruction, and he says to: but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. Philippians 2:3b

Of course, I suppose it is possible that you esteem yourself to be lower than a fool?

I don't really get what u are saying
 
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