If we have to shut down the government to defund Planned Parenthood, so be it

jeffblue101

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Jeffblue, I don't "worship " Planned parenthood . I just realize how important it is in America for poor women . To defund it would be both idiotic and disastrously counterproductive .

it sure does seem like it, when you present numerous false arguments in its support.
 

CabinetMaker

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stop avoiding. racism in america is nowhere near the level hate experienced in the past. was this significant decrease do to legal protections and social engagement?

I don't agree with you. Racism is alive and well in this country. Laws won't change that. Our children might depending on what their patents teach them.
 
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Caledvwlch

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Don't mind if I do.

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republicanchick

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America has proven over and over again that it does not want to end abortion. The democrats are up front and honest about their desire to keep it legal. The Republicans lie about ending abortion as every time they have been in a place to actually do something meaningful, they don't. They can't afford to as they run the risk of losing a large percentage of their voting base if they ever actually ended abortion. That is the political reality of America today.


Here are your own words (with a few minor changes to make it more truthful)


CabinetMaker has proven over and over again that he doesn't care about truth, only about trying to push his liberal views on others (and if he has to twist or deny truth to do it, so be it). He is the one who does not want to end abortion (so he thinks everyone else: ditto). He calls the democrats up front and honest about their desire to keep it legal [and] The Republicans lie about ending abortion as every time they have been in a place to actually do something meaningful, they don't [never mind the pro-life bills that have been introduced in Congress by Republicans...] They can't afford to as they run the risk of losing a large percentage of their voting base if they ever actually ended abortion. [This would be the Democrats, but he is accusing the Rs...] That is the political reality of America today


Liebarrels... the world is full of them

which is the reason the world is SO mucked up and evil


Get them OUT



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CabinetMaker

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Here are your own words (with a few minor changes to make it more truthful)


CabinetMaker has proven over and over again that he doesn't care about truth, only about trying to push his liberal views on others (and if he has to twist or deny truth to do it, so be it). He is the one who does not want to end abortion (so he thinks everyone else: ditto). He calls the democrats up front and honest about their desire to keep it legal [and] The Republicans lie about ending abortion as every time they have been in a place to actually do something meaningful, they don't [never mind the pro-life bills that have been introduced in Congress by Republicans...] They can't afford to as they run the risk of losing a large percentage of their voting base if they ever actually ended abortion. [This would be the Democrats, but he is accusing the Rs...] That is the political reality of America today


Liebarrels... the world is full of them

which is the reason the world is SO mucked up and evil


Get them OUT



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I note that you are actually unable to address the actual point I raised.

For the record, I do not support abortion rights. Never have, never will.
 

CabinetMaker

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u say you are more Left than Right


you reject those who would protect human life, the republicans

(Of course, some day the human life you may want protected could be your own...)



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Please show me where I "reject those who protect human life".

I am more left than right because Jesus is more left than right based on modern definitions and political platforms of the left and right. Being more left than right means that I care more about people and less about money and possessions.
 

republicanchick

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Please show me where I "reject those who protect human life".

I am more left than right because Jesus is more left than right based on modern definitions and political platforms of the left and right. Being more left than right means that I care more about people and less about money and possessions.

I am a Republican and yet I would be considered "poor" by most (not by me, but most)

I am R b/c it is LOGICAL..

and moral

Of course, a lot of rinos are not pro life..

being anti-life is not only immoral, it is ILLOGICAL (in a civilized world... or one that claims to be)



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CabinetMaker

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I am a Republican and yet I would be considered "poor" by most (not by me, but most)

I am R b/c it is LOGICAL..

and moral

Of course, a lot of rinos are not pro life..

being anti-life is not only immoral, it is ILLOGICAL (in a civilized world... or one that claims to be)
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That's nice. It has absolutely nothing to do what what I said. Here, try again.

Please show me where I "reject those who protect human life".

I am more left than right because Jesus is more left than right based on modern definitions and political platforms of the left and right. Being more left than right means that I care more about people and less about money and possessions.
 

republicanchick

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I am more left than right because Jesus is more left than right based on modern definitions and political platforms of the left and right. Being more left than right means that I care more about people and less about money and possessions.

that's your subjective view

Jesus was neither R or D

He never said the gov should... well, do ANYTHING

much less force peoiple to give money to others..


It is our conscience that should "force us" to do that, NOT the gov


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aikido7

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that's your subjective view

Jesus was neither R or D

He never said the gov should... well, do ANYTHING

much less force peoiple to give money to others..


It is our conscience that should "force us" to do that, NOT the gov


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There is a long tradition in the Bible of the Jews attempting to build structural socialism and charity into their society. The great moral narrative of the Bible is there in black and white.

Only our pinched and narrow cultural biases can address it.

The stranger and the immigrant are to be welcomed. You can read it in the Psalms and hear it in the voices of the great prophets.

A portion of the harvest was to be left for the poor and homeless,

A certain period every few specific years was to cancel ALL debts between people.

Every 50 years (if I remember right) were celebrated to return ALL the land back to its original family owners.

We should be proud of our faith heritage.

The Jews were the only people to do this. Their experience with domination and conquerors throughout history gave them a tradition of caring for "the widow and the orphan" and overtly challenging the powers and principalities of the day--just as Jesus did in Jerusalem.
 

republicanchick

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The stranger and the immigrant are to be welcomed. You can read it in the Psalms and hear it in the voices of the great prophets..

so, here are your words (with one little change highlighted)


The stranger and the jihadist are to be welcomed. You can read it in the Psalms and hear it in the voices of the great prophets



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