ECT "I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH"---not "churchES"

[republicanchick]

Well, we know he gave some apostles and some prophets and some evangelists and some pastors and teachers for the perfecting of the saints for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.

What verse establishes a clerical priesthood?

that was established longb4 Jesus came, but was perfected with Jesus...

the Jews had a priesthood, you know... the tribe of Aaron, the Levites

that has been continued more/less w/ Catholicism

you protestants are not into the Old T... or you would know some of this stuff.


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[jamie]

you protestants are not into the Old T... or you would know some of this stuff.

I'm not Protestant. I am Christian (other). Other meaning NT doctrine.

Catholics are not much into NT teachings.

 

[Cruciform]

Catholics are not much into NT teachings.

How do you figure? After all, Catholics were studying the New Testament documents for fifteen centuries before a single Protestant (non-Catholic) ever managed to stumble onto the scene.

 

[jamie]

How do you figure? After all, Catholics were studying the New Testament documents for fifteen centuries before a single Protestant (non-Catholic) ever managed to stumble onto the scene.]

I'm not Protestant and neither was Jesus.

 

[Lazy afternoon]

The future of the churches is found in studying the kingdoms of Israel and of Judah of the OT.

The RCC religion and friends will be wiped out of existence in the same manner as was the northern Kingdom of Israel of the OT.

Their kings are types of the Popes, which were not all bad, but most were and they had installed their own priesthood as the RCC has.
Just read about Ahab and Jezebell and 2 Kings ch 16 and 17.

LA

 

[jamie]

How do you figure? After all, Catholics were studying the New Testament documents for fifteen centuries before a single Protestant (non-Catholic) ever managed to stumble onto the scene.T]

Ok, maybe you can help me. I'm looking for the scripture where Jesus changed Passover observance to Easter observance. Can you tell me what scripture authorized the change.

 

[Cruciform]

I'm not Protestant and neither was Jesus.

Of course Jesus wasn't a Protestant, since Protestantism would not even exist for another fifteen centuries.

As for you, I'll simply ask a question:

Do you hold to the two foundational Protestant precepts of [1] sola scriptura ("Scripture alone") and [2] sola fide ("faith alone")?​

Gaudium de veritate,

Cruciform
+T+

 

[Cruciform]

Ok, maybe you can help me. I'm looking for the scripture where Jesus changed Passover observance to Easter observance. Can you tell me what scripture authorized the change.

Where did you get the idea that "Jesus changed Passover observance to Easter observance"?

 

[jamie]

As for you, I'll simply ask a question:

Do you hold to the two foundational Protestant precepts of [1] sola scriptura ("Scripture alone") and [2] sola fide ("faith alone")?​

What did Jesus say about sola scriptura? Was he for it or against it.

 

[jamie]

Where did you get the idea that "Jesus changed Passover observance to Easter observance"?

Are you saying Jesus observed Easter Sunday? What verse, please.

 

[Cruciform]

Are you saying Jesus observed Easter Sunday?

No. That's what you appear to be saying.

 

[Cruciform]

What did Jesus say about sola scriptura? Was he for it or against it.

Jesus and the apostles were most adamantly against it.

So, then, do you hold to sola scriptura and sola fide, yes or no?

 

[genuineoriginal]

It's the very same Church founded by Jesus Christ himself

Jesus did not found the Church of Rome.

Jesus founded an ekklesia (congregation) in Jerusalem.

The Church of Rome did not succeed the ekklesia of Jerusalem

The Church of Rome was not founded by any of the Apostles.

 

[jamie]

So, then, do you hold to sola scriptura and sola fide, yes or no?

We just covered sola scriptura and I do not subscribe to faith alone.

 

[Cruciform]

We just covered sola scriptura and I do not subscribe to faith alone.

You affirm, then, the belief that good works play a part in one's salvation?

 

[jamie]

You affirm, then, the belief that good works play a part in one's salvation?

No, I hold to the idea that salvation is by grace through faith which is a gift of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Cruciform]

No, I hold to the idea that salvation is by grace through faith which is a gift of the Holy Spirit.

You deny, then, that good works play a part in one's salvation?

 

[jamie]

You deny, then, that good works play a part in one's salvation?

Yes, don't you?

 

[Cruciform]

Yes, don't you?

No, and neither did Jesus, the apostles, and the early Christian Church (see this).

Therefore, you do in fact hold to the two central and defining precepts of Protestantism (Post #148), and thus you are indeed a Protestant. Your claim to the contrary, then, simply falls flat.



Gaudium de veritate,

Cruciform
+T+

 

[Cruciform]

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