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annabenedetti

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The people whom you're defending had "final orders of removal from an immigration judge."

The fact that they were living in a US citizen's house should concern you.

Wrong.

I wonder why.

Who'd want to admit that they have two criminals, one of whom is a pedophile, living in their family's home?


Thao’s family said in a statement that it “categorically disputes” the DHS account and “strongly objects to DHS’s attempt to publicly justify this conduct with false and misleading claims.”

Thao told the AP that only he, his son and daughter-in-law and his grandson live at the rental home. Neither they nor the property’s owner are listed in the Minnesota sex offender registry. The nearest sex offender listed as living in the zip code is more than two blocks away.

DHS later released the names and photos of two people it described as “violent illegal alien sexual offenders” that it was seeking to detain in St. Paul. Thao said he had never seen these men before and they did not live with him.




So what?

These "protesters" are harassing law enforcement officers as they try to do their jobs of removing illegal aliens from our country.

Pepper spray should be the least of their concerns.

"So what" that Noem lies? Then none of what she says can be taken at face value.

"Raheem Kassam"?

Who's that?

He sounds foreign.

Yeah, that tracks.

Settlers are not immigrants.

😂


And if they wanted to live here, to immigrate, to become Americans, why are they not assimilating?

So you're the arbiter of assimilation excellence now?

Ignoring the posts I cited won't make them go away, Anna.

I give them the time you give mine, JR.


Can you condemn the things that the VA government is doing?

Do it. Right here, right now.

You won't.

You're not even aware of what's going on, but not because you aren't finding it.

You don't want to. You refuse to see with your own eyes, simply because of your bias against X, because it's become more pro-1A than any other site. And that scares you.

You want me to condemn a bill in VA when we're talking about ICE in Minnesota?

Right here, right now, even? Why are you jumping boats midstream and demanding I jump with you? Diversion?

I'm not finished with this subject.
 

annabenedetti

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People start to pay attention when it starts hitting close to home.

ICE agents pull guns on police officers 'of color' and demand papers: MN chief


Brooklyn Park Police Chief Mark Bruley revealed that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents have been pulling guns on off-duty officers of color while illegally demanding their citizenship papers.

At a press conference on Tuesday, Bruley said he opposed abolishing ICE but disagreed with how federal officers were carrying out immigration enforcement.

"Recently, as the last two weeks, we as law enforcement community have been receiving endless complaints about civil rights violations in our streets from US citizens," he said. "What we're hearing is they're being stopped in traffic stops or on the street with no cause and being forced to show paperwork to determine if they are here legally."

"As this went on over the past two weeks, we started hearing from our police officers the same complaints as they fell victim to this while off duty," he continued. "Every one of these individuals is a person of color who has had this happen to them."


Bruley said ICE "boxed in" one officer on a roadway.

"They demanded her paperwork, of which she's a US citizen and clearly would not have any paperwork," he said. "When she became concerned about the rhetoric and the way she was being treated, she pulled out her phone in an attempt to record the incident, the phone was knocked out of her hands, prevented her from recording it."

"The officer had their gun drawn during this interaction," he added. "And after the officer became so concerned, they were forced to identify themselves as a Brooklyn Park police officer in hopes of slowing the incident and de-escalating the incident down."

"The agents then immediately left after hearing this, making no other comments, no other apologies, just got in their vehicles and left."

Bruley said the anecdote was not an isolated incident.

"In fact, many of the chiefs standing behind me have similar incidents with their off-duty officers," he remarked. "This isn't just important because it happened to off-duty police officers, but what it did do is we know that our officers know what the Constitution is, they know what right and wrong is, and they know when people are being targeted, and that's what they were."

"If it is happening to our officers, it pains me to think of how many of our community members are falling victim to this every day. It has to stop."
 

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Thao’s family said in a statement that it “categorically disputes” the DHS account and “strongly objects to DHS’s attempt to publicly justify this conduct with false and misleading claims.”

Thao told the AP that only he, his son and daughter-in-law and his grandson live at the rental home. Neither they nor the property’s owner are listed in the Minnesota sex offender registry. The nearest sex offender listed as living in the zip code is more than two blocks away.

DHS later released the names and photos of two people it described as “violent illegal alien sexual offenders” that it was seeking to detain in St. Paul. Thao said he had never seen these men before and they did not live with him.



Per Grok's analysis:

The best defense for ICE's actions in the January 18, 2026, detention of ChongLy "Scott" Thao centers on the operational context, standard law enforcement protocols, and the pursuit of public safety amid a targeted enforcement effort. While the incident has drawn criticism for its aggressiveness and impact on a U.S. citizen, DHS and ICE have maintained that their conduct was justified based on intelligence, risk assessment, and procedural norms. Below, I'll outline the strongest factual arguments in their favor, drawing from official statements and consistent reporting, without endorsing or dismissing counterclaims from Thao's family (e.g., denials of any connection to the targets or disputes over cooperation).
  1. Targeted Operation Against Serious Criminals
    ICE agents were executing a focused raid to apprehend two specific individuals with active deportation orders: Kongmeng Vang and Lue Moua, both convicted sex offenders. Vang's convictions include sexual assault, gang activity, and assault, while Moua's include rape, kidnapping, and domestic violence—crimes that pose significant public safety risks. Defenders argue this aligns with ICE's mandate under the Trump administration to prioritize deportations of criminals, emphasizing that failing to act on such threats could endanger communities. The operation was not random but based on intelligence linking the targets to Thao's address (possibly as former residents or associates), justifying the location choice.
  2. Physical Resemblance and Initial Non-Cooperation
    Thao reportedly matched the physical description of one or both targets, prompting agents to detain him for verification. DHS stated that Thao refused fingerprinting or facial identification at the scene, necessitating temporary custody to confirm his status safely. In high-stakes raids involving potentially dangerous fugitives, such protocols prevent misidentification risks or escapes. Supporters note that quick resolution (release after about an hour, once citizenship was verified via fingerprinting) demonstrates efficiency, not malice.
  3. Standard Safety Protocols in Law Enforcement Operations
    DHS emphasized that detaining all individuals in a targeted residence is "standard protocol" for any law enforcement agency during such operations, to ensure the safety of officers, residents, and the public. This includes drawn weapons and forced entry if exigent circumstances exist (e.g., pursuing violent offenders who might be armed or fleeing). The raid occurred in the context of a broader surge in Minnesota enforcement (up to 3,000 agents deployed), where similar tactics have been used to address deportation backlogs. Critics' focus on the lack of an initial warrant presentation overlooks that administrative warrants (common in immigration enforcement) may not require judicial approval for entry in certain scenarios, and agents reportedly had one, though not immediately shown.
  4. No Lasting Harm and Prompt Release
    Thao was not charged, injured, or held beyond verification, and was returned home without incident. DHS has not confirmed an apology, but the swift correction supports the argument that this was an unfortunate but defensible error in a fluid, high-risk situation—comparable to mistaken-identity incidents in other policing contexts. The targets remain at large, underscoring the urgency of the operation.
In summary, ICE's strongest defense portrays the incident as a necessary, protocol-driven response to credible threats from dangerous individuals, with Thao's detention as a brief precautionary measure due to resemblance and non-cooperation. This view prioritizes enforcement efficacy and officer safety over the acknowledged disruption to an innocent citizen. However, unresolved disputes (e.g., the exact address link or warrant details) could weaken this if proven inaccurate in potential litigation, as Thao's family has indicated plans for a civil rights lawsuit.



The point here is that ICE's actions are justifiable, even if they made a mistake. Framing their actions as though they're tyranny isn't helping anyone.

"So what" that Noem lies? Then none of what she says can be taken at face value.

Riiiiiiiight...

So when you lie, we shouldn't take what you say at face value? Asking for a friend...

So you're the arbiter of assimilation excellence now?

All I'm asking for is the bare minimum.

They can't even do that much.

Learn English. Adhere to American values. Call America their home and strive to increase the value of the nation they came to.

Instead, they refuse to learn English, they communicate in their native tongue. (eg the trucking industry)
They import their own nations values and let them take precedent over ours. (eg sharia law)
They call the nation they came from home, and send most of what they earn to their families who remain there. (eg Ilhan Omar, Somali daycare fraud)

They're nothing but leeches.

If they want to enrich a nation, let them enrich their own.

I give them the time you give mine, JR.

False.

You want me to condemn a bill in VA

Yes. Because of what it's about.

when we're talking about ICE in Minnesota?

Let's not lose track of what was said now, Anna.

You said that the Republicans have control of the Federal government.

I pointed out that they're powerless because of the stranglehold the left has on the country.

I then gave an example of this, that being Virginia.

Still with me?

Right here, right now, even? Why are you jumping boats midstream and demanding I jump with you? Diversion?

I'm not finished with this subject.

See, you can't even condemn the bills that effectively legitimize capital crimes by removing the punishments for them.

You're evil. Your opinions are irrelevant,

You can't even condemn the evil bills when they've been shoved in your face, why, because "I, Anna, don't like X! Waahhhh!"
 
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