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[Skeeter]

How do you know this? I mean from your naturalistic materialist worldview.

Through a harm reduction model of contingency management and a rubric of mutual solidarity ie social contract with my fellow humans.

How's your authoritarian prism from the iron age that cloaks and refracts your own biases working for you?

 

[Idolater]

Through a harm reduction model of contingency management and a rubric of mutual solidarity ie social contract with my fellow humans....

So, consequentialist legal positivism? Yuck.

 

[Skeeter]

So, consequentialist legal positivism? Yuck.

No, its delicious.

 

[Idolater]

No, its delicious.

No, it's actually immoral 'as all get out.'

 

[Skeeter]

No, it's actually immoral 'as all get out.'

Oh -- get out of town. How so?

It beats a pretend scaffolding attached to an unproveable, unfathomable force.

 

[Idolater]

Oh -- get out of town. How so?

It beats a pretend scaffolding attached to an unproveable, unfathomable force.

Human rights?

 

[Skeeter]

Human rights?

A deity.

 

[Idolater]

A deity.

Who's talking about that?

Human rights?

 

[Skeeter]

Who's talking about that?

Human rights?

I am.

God?

 

[Idolater]

I am.

God?

Yeah. God gave us human rights.

But you don't have to believe that.

To believe in human rights.

And in moral theory based on human rights.

I.e. not consequentialism, and not legal positivism.

 

[Skeeter]

Yeah. God gave us human rights.

But you don't have to believe that.

To believe in human rights.

And in moral theory based on human rights.

I.e. not consequentialism, and not legal positivism.

You brought up those terms. You can have them. They only obliquely apply to what I mentioned to right divider.

 

[Skeeter]

This is exactly why democracy is evil, because it gives the wicked just as much say as the righteous.

Meanwhile autocracy has no balancing mechanism leaving evil to grow unchecked. A Democratic Republic is the closest humans can come to government by reason because it exposes ego and superstition.

 

[Right Divider]

Through a harm reduction model of contingency management and a rubric of mutual solidarity ie social contract with my fellow humans.

That's a lot of meaningless words. Since they were produced by random impulses in your head.

How's your authoritarian prism from the iron age that cloaks and refracts your own biases working for you?

I have a foundataion for morals and ethics. Your purely material world has none.

 

[Skeeter]

That's a lot of meaningless words. Since they were produced by random impulses in your head.

I do not think you know what random means. Evolution is not a random process and neither is morality based on reason rather.

I have a foundation for morals and ethics. Your purely material world has none.

Your foundation is illusory. A ball of contradictions can do you no good even though you have a sense of deluded certainty.

 

[Right Divider]

I do not think you know what random means. Evolution is not a random process and neither is morality based on reason rather.

So again your are saying that "Evolution" is a guided process. And yet you claim that there is no guide.

Your foundation is illusory.

Not mine... yours is.

A ball of contradictions can do you no good even though you have a sense of deluded certainty.

So says that one that has no foundation whatsoever for judgment of right and wrong.

 

[Idolater]

I do not think you know what random means. Evolution is not a random process and neither is morality based on reason rather.

Your foundation is illusory.

You are hereby denying human rights? RD believes in human rights. That's his foundation. Human, rights

A ball of contradictions can do you no good even though you have a sense of deluded certainty.

There's nothing contradictory about RD's belief in human rights, Skeeter.

What's your PhD in?

 

[Skeeter]

So again your are saying that "Evolution" is a guided process. And yet you claim that there is no guide.

Stop looking for who and start understanding how.

So says that one that has no foundation whatsoever for judgment of right and wrong.

You think you have access to absolute right and wrong through God. You strain to make sense of a sacred book and apply it to modern problems?

If we agree to the simply criteria that it is a virtue to reduce human suffering and increase satisfaction, then we can build a testable moral framework that co-exists along side law, using empiricism and developing precedent along the way.

 

[Right Divider]

Stop looking for who and start understanding how.

I know WHO... if you have a HOW you could provide it.

You think you have access to absolute right and wrong through God.

All you have is atoms... there are no rights and wrongs based on atoms.

You strain to make sense of a sacred book and apply it to modern problems?

I accept the truth.

If we agree to the simply criteria that it is a virtue to reduce suffering and increase satisfaction, then we can build a testable moral framework that co-exists aside law, using empiricism and developing precedent along the way.

Again, how to get that from atoms... since the material world is all that you have?

 

[Skeeter]

All you have is atoms... there are no rights and wrongs based on atoms.

There is no need to be that reductionistic. The whole is greater than its parts.

I accept the truth.

On what basis? You reject empirical method.

Again, how to get that from atoms... since the material world is all that you have?

At least I stay in the real world.

 

[Right Divider]

There is no need to be that reductionistic. The whole is greater than its parts.

Again an unsupported claim.

On what basis? You reject empirical method.

I do NOT reject the empirical method. I reject materialism.

At least I stay in the real world.

No, you live in a dream world.