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The Old Testament is no longer in effect. It is now just history. You need to read Paul's epistles and get saved.

You don't know Paul, if you did, you would know that he did not tell you to cut out the Old Testament.

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 

Robert Pate

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You don't know Paul, if you did, you would know that he did not tell you to cut out the Old Testament.

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,


You want to live according to rules, laws and religion. Paul said that... "THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH" Romans 1:17. Living by faith does not mean living by rules, laws or religion. It means to live by faith in Christ and his Gospel.
 

beloved57

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You want to live according to rules, laws and religion. Paul said that... "THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH" Romans 1:17. Living by faith does not mean living by rules, laws or religion. It means to live by faith in Christ and his Gospel.

How do you have Faith in Christ and His Gospel when you teach that sinners He died for are lost and condemned ?
 

God's Truth

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You want to live according to rules, laws and religion. Paul said that... "THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH" Romans 1:17. Living by faith does not mean living by rules, laws or religion. It means to live by faith in Christ and his Gospel.

Living by faith means you are washed by the blood of Jesus. That means the sins you repented of were washed away.

You are down the wrong road.
 

Robert Pate

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Living by faith means you are washed by the blood of Jesus. That means the sins you repented of were washed away.

You are down the wrong road.


Why is it you never talk about justification? Can it be that you don't believe in justification by faith apart from the works of the law? Romans 5:1.
 

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Why is it you never talk about justification? Can it be that you don't believe in justification by faith apart from the works of the law? Romans 5:1.

The saved are washed, cleaned, justified, righteous, sanctified, purified...all at the same time by Jesus' blood and by obeying.
 

Robert Pate

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The saved are washed, cleaned, justified, righteous, sanctified, purified...all at the same time by Jesus' blood and by obeying.

When you add your obeying to the Gospel it nullifies all of the rest. Jesus does not need your obedience to save you. He has ALREADY reconciled you to God by his life, death and resurrection, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.
 

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When you add your obeying to the Gospel it nullifies all of the rest. Jesus does not need your obedience to save you. He has ALREADY reconciled you to God by his life, death and resurrection, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

Faith alone is dead it cannot save anyone. That dead faith is not saving faith.

We are not reconciled to God until we believe and obey Jesus.

2 Corinthians 5:20 We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.


What is Paul doing imploring you to be reconciled if you already were?
 

Robert Pate

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Faith alone is dead it cannot save anyone. That dead faith is not saving faith.

We are not reconciled to God until we believe and obey Jesus.

2 Corinthians 5:20 We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God.


What is Paul doing imploring you to be reconciled if you already were?


Paul is encouraging you to accept what Jesus has ALREADY provided for you. "Be reconciled unto God" Nothing is ours until it is received by faith. If you were a Christian you would know that. You are trying to reconcile your self to God by your obedience, which is flawed.
 

God's Truth

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Paul is encouraging you to accept what Jesus has ALREADY provided for you. "Be reconciled unto God" Nothing is ours until it is received by faith. If you were a Christian you would know that. You are trying to reconcile your self to God by your obedience, which is flawed.

Faith alone is dead. You can't get around that.
 

beloved57

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Paul is encouraging you to accept what Jesus has ALREADY provided for you. "Be reconciled unto God" Nothing is ours until it is received by faith. If you were a Christian you would know that. You are trying to reconcile your self to God by your obedience, which is flawed.

You don't believe in Christ! You believe sinners He died for are still lost. That's not Faith in Christ.
 

Robert Pate

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Faith alone is dead. You can't get around that.

Only if you believe that Jesus failed to reconcile us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

James was written under the law. Faith and faith alone justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5. You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith. You want to add your obedience to the Gospel, which is flawed.
 

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Only if you believe that Jesus failed to reconcile us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

James was written under the law. Faith and faith alone justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5. You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith. You want to add your obedience to the Gospel, which is flawed.

James was in the new covenant just like Paul.

James didn't speak falseness. Peter and Paul confirmed that each other spoke scripture. Do you really think James is going to speak against the scripture that Paul spoke? Maybe you just misunderstand Paul. You would rather think James spoke bad things about Paul's scripture than for you to admit you got something wrong.
 
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