He is the propitiation for our sins 2

beloved57

Well-known member
1 Jn 2:1-2

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Most people in religion dont understand this truth of Jesus being the propitiation for our sins. Its obvious one doesnt understand it when they come to the false conclusion that all men without exception is meant, to include people who are under Gods penal vindictive wrath. Thats the wrath Jesus refers to here Jn 3:36

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

If the wrath of God is presently abiding on any individual, its simply impossible for that one to be included in the whole world of 1 Jn 2:2. This is true because those ones belonging to that whole world, Christ has been and is[present tense] continually their propitiation. This means He propitiated God’s wrath against us by bearing God’s righteous indignation and wrath against our sins 1 Jn 4:10

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Christ is continually being their satisfaction before the Law and Justice of God for their sins. Yes even for their sins if unbelief. For its not belief in Christ that satisfied, propitiated Gods punitive wrath, but the blood of Jesus Christ the Righteous. We fall into grave error when we trust that it was ones act of believing that propitiated Gods wrath instead of Christs blood. Then we give mans act credit for doing something that Christ and His Blood should have the Glory of doing, accomplishing.

So its Christs Death, Blood alone that actually propitiated Gods wrath and completed the atonement. On the cross, Jesus turned away God’s punitive wrath against us for ever, even when we were in unbelief, for our unbelief has nothing to do with what Christ blood accomplished for us.

Now false religion says that God’s wrath is only potentially turned away from all men so that all can be saved if they, by an act of their “free will,” choose or accept Jesus.!
 

marke

Well-known member
1 Jn 2:1-2

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Most people in religion dont understand this truth of Jesus being the propitiation for our sins. Its obvious one doesnt understand it when they come to the false conclusion that all men without exception is meant, to include people who are under Gods penal vindictive wrath. Thats the wrath Jesus refers to here Jn 3:36

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

If the wrath of God is presently abiding on any individual, its simply impossible for that one to be included in the whole world of 1 Jn 2:2. This is true because those ones belonging to that whole world, Christ has been and is[present tense] continually their propitiation. This means He propitiated God’s wrath against us by bearing God’s righteous indignation and wrath against our sins 1 Jn 4:10

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Christ is continually being their satisfaction before the Law and Justice of God for their sins. Yes even for their sins if unbelief. For its not belief in Christ that satisfied, propitiated Gods punitive wrath, but the blood of Jesus Christ the Righteous. We fall into grave error when we trust that it was ones act of believing that propitiated Gods wrath instead of Christs blood. Then we give mans act credit for doing something that Christ and His Blood should have the Glory of doing, accomplishing.

So its Christs Death, Blood alone that actually propitiated Gods wrath and completed the atonement. On the cross, Jesus turned away God’s punitive wrath against us for ever, even when we were in unbelief, for our unbelief has nothing to do with what Christ blood accomplished for us.

Now false religion says that God’s wrath is only potentially turned away from all men so that all can be saved if they, by an act of their “free will,” choose or accept Jesus.!
Sins must be atoned for or sinners will die and go to hell. God instituted the provisions for atonement in the OT. If sinners refused to follow God's prescription for the atonement for sins they would never be saved. That is true today. God established His method of atonement as a blood sacrifice on the altar. Those who believed God and willingly offered the sacrifice had their sins atoned for. Those who rejected God's provision were damned. The same is true today. Those who take God at His word and trust Jesus' atonement for their sins will be saved. All others will be lost.

Leviticus 22:17-19

King James Version

17 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
18 Speak unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the children of Israel, and say unto them, Whatsoever he be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers in Israel, that will offer his oblation for all his vows, and for all his freewill offerings, which they will offer unto the Lord for a burnt offering;
19 Ye shall offer at your own will a male without blemish, of the beeves, of the sheep, or of the goats.​




Leviticus 1:3
If his offering be a burnt sacrifice of the herd, let him offer a male without blemish: he shall offer it of his own voluntary will at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the Lord.
 

beloved57

Well-known member
Propitiation is the just ground whereby all for whom Christ propitiated God for, shall live [spiritually] 1 Jn 4:9-10

9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live[spiritually] through him.

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

All for whom Christ died, and propitiated God for, they shall be born again of the Spirit !
 

marke

Well-known member
Propitiation is the just ground whereby all for whom Christ propitiated God for, shall live [spiritually] 1 Jn 4:9-10

9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live[spiritually] through him.

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

All for whom Christ died, and propitiated God for, they shall be born again of the Spirit !
Jesus died for the sins of the world so that whosoever was willing could be saved by turning to God for the forgiveness of their sins. God did not create humans for some sort of evil pleasure in burning them in hell forever. God is love, not hate. He desires that all sinners would turn from their sins and be saved.
 

blackSand

Member
Sins must be atoned for or sinners will die and go to hell. God instituted the provisions for atonement in the OT. If sinners refused to follow God's prescription for the atonement for sins they would never be saved. That is true today. God established His method of atonement as a blood sacrifice on the altar. Those who believed God and willingly offered the sacrifice had their sins atoned for. Those who rejected God's provision were damned. The same is true today. Those who take God at His word and trust Jesus' atonement for their sins will be saved. All others will be lost.

Leviticus 22:17-19​

King James Version​

17 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,​

18 Speak unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the children of Israel, and say unto them, Whatsoever he be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers in Israel, that will offer his oblation for all his vows, and for all his freewill offerings, which they will offer unto the Lord for a burnt offering;​

19 Ye shall offer at your own will a male without blemish, of the beeves, of the sheep, or of the goats.​




Leviticus 1:3
If his offering be a burnt sacrifice of the herd, let him offer a male without blemish: he shall offer it of his own voluntary will at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the Lord.
>>> Notice Lev. 1:3 it was not a command, it start with (IF).
Offering a korban for unintentional sin was an option and was not a command.
God said He never command or required anyone to offer a sacrifices to atone for intentional sins.
 
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