ECT Grace is unconditional but not universal

[Sonnet]

Simple question...

Where does faith (the noun) come from as its source for believing? Man or God? (Does man innately have faith to believe? Or does that faith come from God to believe?)

Faith comes from trusting in evidence, or not trusting it.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You are ignorant, period. You think too highly of yourself. Headknowledge won't make the cut, especially perceived headknpwledge, nor will presumptuous sin.

I feel a prodding to be on your side. However, I think both you guys are a couple of "Town Character" types.

 

[Cross Reference]

Since you have to ask, you can't understand. Just like with everything else in your massive heresies.

Bad attempt.. Try again. How does God's sovereignty enter into this with you except, you keep mentioning it?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Faith comes from trusting in evidence, or not trusting it.

Then, how come you don't grasp Christianity?

 

[Cross Reference]

He didn't. Tell me... "When" did the timeless God do this foreknowing and choosing?

No, How. I know when.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You don't what either are, so any answer would be futile.

Check your spelling on this one buddy. Just don't want you to sound like an illiterate.

 

[Cross Reference]

I feel a prodding to be on your side. However, I think both you guys are a couple of "Town Character" types.

And where you think you fit in, I don't want to know. I want my dinner to stay down.

 

[Sonnet]

Then, how come you don't grasp Christianity?

Are you aware of anyone who finds belief in scripture easy?

Okay - let me ask you - did Noah save himself, family and animals in a boat from a destructive world-wide flood?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Faith comes from trusting in evidence, or not trusting it.

By the way, Romans 10:17 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

You are ignorant, period. You think too highly of yourself. Headknowledge won't make the cut, especially perceived headknpwledge, nor will presumptuous sin.

Keep tryin'.

 

[Cross Reference]

Faith comes from trusting in evidence, or not trusting it.

Nice thinking, Sonnet. The evidence of course being, redemption. That is the fact [evidence] that can be trusted. What it enables requires faith that the fact produces.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Faith comes from trusting in evidence, or not trusting it.

No. Faith is a noun, not a verb. Trusting is a verb. And technically, that's (a diluted attempt at) elpis not pistis anyway.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Are you aware of anyone who finds belief in scripture easy?

Okay - let me ask you - did Noah save himself, family and animals in a boat from a destructive world-wide flood?

Why do you bother sounding like a "Makeshift Bible Scholar" when in truth you're not even a Christian?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

No. Faith is a noun, not a verb. Trusting is a verb. And technically, that's elpis not pistis anyway.

Ya should of let your cat answer this one.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

By the way, I have three Cats.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

PPS, it sounds as if your Cat is a wee bit more intelligent that his/her master? Just an opinion.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Are you aware of anyone who finds belief in scripture easy?

Okay - let me ask you - did Noah save himself, family and animals in a boat from a destructive world-wide flood?

No. There was a thing thought and spoken about by God, which was the means by which there was a thing heard, out of which came the thing believed.

It was all the Word of God.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Keep tryin'.

Nah, I think he has you pretty well pegged.

 

[Sonnet]

Why do you bother sounding like a "Makeshift Bible Scholar" when in truth you're not even a Christian?

? You wish to stop me investigating? What's the problem?

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

Faith comes from trusting in evidence, or not trusting it.

Ummm... Faith IS the evidence (of things not seen).