drbrumley
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Says the big retard. Ignore you go
Golan Heights Oil - Israel wants it!
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Says the big retard. Ignore you go
You keep spouting this "what Moshe Dayan said" rhetoric but, I have yet to see the citation so I can read it for myself. Did you post one? I may have missed it.
drbrumley
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Did I say God revoked His promises to Israel? No, sure didn't. He has been more than accommodating to them. Yet they reject Him over and over. Even now. Acts 2 thru 9 bears out the Kingdom was offered, they refused. God set them aside. Hopefully one day they will get with the program. Until then, when the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled, something will happen. Until then, we don't know. But that gives Israel no special place. They are just like me and you. They are not above well placed criticism.
Yet, all prophecy concerning the end times, the church, and Israel all take place in that region do they not? Is not Christ coming again to place His foot on the Mt. of Olives & split it in two? (Zech 14:4) Is it just coincidence that God said he would gather the Jews scattered around the world back into this land which has happened & still happening? (Ezek 37:21-22) I never said that the Jews have a special place outside of Christ, I have said God is not finished His business with them...in His time, in His way. The Jews are in their/His land of promise by His own Hand it is for His own purposes that they continue there Doc.
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:doh: What would you expect? Maybe they should have prophesied about places unknown?
Regardless of what Moshe Dayan said which from what I have read was to the effect that they wanted to give the Syrians a bloody nose with the Golon, as well as hold the strategic property where the Syrians were shelling Israel from. Yes, the Syrians prior to the six day war were quite aggressive using the Golon to shell Israelis & allow the PLO a staging area to commit terrorist acts, also Syrian planes were bombing Northern Israel on the first day of the six day war June 5 1967 so, do I feel that Israel was the aggressor in any of the tensions with the Arabs?...Nope. The Arabs were openly aggressive on all sides and got their butts shellacked for it...the Arabs have been nothing but, bullies concerning Israel since 1948 and they got taken to the woodshed for it. You do notice that they tread lightly with Israel now don't you? Bullies understand a good butt kickin...
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I don't know...sure looks like the Syrians were pretty aggressive to me...they got what was coming to them and lost the Golon in the process no matter what Moshe Dayan said his ulterior motives were. To bad, so sad...sucks to be an aggressor.
http://www.sixdaywar.org/content/syria.asp
| Prior to the Six Day War, a low intensity conflict festered between Israel and Syria. In 1964, a Syrian attempt to divert the headwaters of the Jordan River was halted by Israeli aerial bombardment. Syria also shelled Israeli communities from positions in the Golan Heights and allowed its territory to be used as a staging area for incursions into Israel by Palestinian terrorists. |
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| Syrian planes bombed northern Israel on June 5, the first day of the war. The following day, Syrian forces attacked the Israeli communities of Tel Dan, Kibbutz Shaar Yashuv and Ashmura but were repelled by Israeli forces. The Syrian air force unsuccessfully attempted to bomb oil refineries in Haifa. Israeli forces counter-attacked on July 9 and 10, driving the Syrians from the Golan Heights and bringing the Six Day War to a close. Estimated Syrian losses were 2500 killed, 5000 wounded, and 591 taken prisoner. |
I don't know...sure looks like the Syrians were pretty aggressive to me...they got what was coming to them and lost the Golon in the process no matter what Moshe Dayan said his ulterior motives were. To bad, so sad...sucks to be an aggressor.
http://www.sixdaywar.org/content/syria.asp
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A prophet would not mention a particular place if it was happening in an unknown land now would they? :doh:
drbrumley
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Ahhh, from the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA). Need a better source. Not an arm of AIPAC. Much obliged.
So, you are saying that the aggression of Syria & Egypt prior to the six day war was a myth? Sorry Doc, you need to read more history books, the Arab states were engaged in guerrilla warfare with Israel far before 1967 and were amassing forces along Israel's borders to attack them at the time of Israel's pre-emptive engagement. These data points are all a matter of recorded history, and irrefutable, outside of any website you personally deem as unworthy. To even posit that the Arab countries were not then, or now, aggressive towards Israel is just absurd. Syria along with Egypt were probably the worst aggressors in starting the conflict to begin with, the Golon was taken as was Gaza & the Sinai Peninsula...spoils of war, pure & simple.
glorydaz
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I'm borrowing this perfect example of just deserts. There is a good purpose behind God's allowing man to suffer the consequences for their bad behavior, aside from His other purposes for Israel. People actually do learn from consequences .... ie the fact that bad behavior is risky behavior.
Thanks for pointing that out. We knew it anyway. But thanks. It's good to see you are acknowledging actual history. I'm not sure what your point was seeing as you were 'just pointing it out', but thanks for reminding us all of the obvious.
Of course, it is obvious that in the 6 day war, Israel attacked first because that's what the 6 day war was. But it is just as obvious that Syria had been attacking Israel constantly before that and likewise the Palestinians attacking from the West Bank in Jordan and likewise Egypt made an act of war by sealing the Gulf of Aqaba, as well as expelling the UN peace-keeping forces there. But I am just pointing that out.
Well, Eeset in her first post didn't seem to have been aware that Israel annexed the Golan Heights in 1981 and tried to make out that they were only just thinking of annexing it now that there was oil there. So I wouldn't bank on everyone agreeing with that fact as some people seem to be really ignorant. (Or perhaps not ignorant - sorry Eeset - if you were simply in the habit of inventing any old fact to place Israel in a bad light.)
But just (there's that 'just' again) so that people here are cured of any further ignorance, during the 6 day war, Israel pleaded with King Hussein not to attack them for his own sake and reminded him of the good relations they previously enjoyed together. So clearly, Israel did not have 'land-grab' on their minds at all. If they did, they would never have made this request.
Hussein however, was duped by Nasser into thinking that Egypt was winning the battle in the Sinai and that he would be a fool not to join the party. So Hussein responded to Israel that the dice had already been cast and by sending in tanks and a barrage of thousands of rockets on Israeli Jerusalem with the sole aim of wiping Israel off the map.
But don't let these facts disturb you. I was just pointing them out.
Link?
The media is liberal/socialist. Connect the dots.
The media hates the people/family/groups you listed. Leave it to a bimbo like you to be exactly the opposite of what is going on.
Except when Israel was invaded, right?