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chrysostom

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hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

we should talk about Mary

she does get a lot of attention this time of year

why is that?

Dec 8 we celebrate the feast of the Immaculate Conception

is that when Jesus was conceived?

no but many incorrectly think that

is it when Mary was conceived?

yes

what does it mean?

that Mary was conceived without sin

is there any scripture basis for that?

not directly, it is based on the belief that the mother of God should be without sin

so it is more out of respect for Jesus than it is for Mary?

exactly




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chrysostom said:
hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

we should talk about Mary

she does get a lot of attention this time of year

why is that?

Dec 8 we celebrate the feast of the Immaculate Conception

is that when Jesus was conceived?

no but many incorrectly think that

is it when Mary was conceived?

yes

what does it mean?

that Mary was conceived without sin

is there any scripture basis for that?

not directly, it is based on the belief that the mother of God should be without sin

so it is more out of respect for Jesus than it is for Mary?

exactly




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Charity

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I wouldn't argue That Mary Parents were Lawfully Married an she was conceived with out Sin. I Take it if her Mother was Mistress to Her Father then Jesus would bare the shame an Have less persaution. Arguments over power can get petty.
 
chrysostom

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hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

don't you think you are over doing your devotion to Mary?

not if she is your mother

she is your mother?

behold thy mother

I love it when you quote the bible, can you cite the passage?

yes, it is John 19:27 KJV

that is pretty good for a catholic

thank you, thank you very much




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Charity

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Im sure Mary winds Back to be Mother of many.
Hence, she is required to be responsible for both Birth sons an Earth sons?
Arguments over power can get petty! :)
 
chrysostom

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hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so we were talking about Constantinople

and the thousand years

what about the seven heads?

most count kings but I count dynasties

there were seven dynasties?

up until the end of the western part of the Roman empire

did you come up with this?

I let the historians do all the work for me

what are they?

you will find the seven dynasties here




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Charity said:
Im sure Mary winds Back to be Mother of many.
Hence, she is required to be responsible for both Birth sons an Earth sons?
Arguments over power can get petty! :)
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The Greek author of Matthew justified the Pagan infusion of the virgin birth myth by mistranslating. There were many attempts to justify Jesus authority and acceptance by forcing him into the OT, it failed to satisfy the Jews and only added to the confusion of believers.

Wiki:

"In this passage from the book of Isaiah the prophet predicts to king Ahaz that a young woman will give birth to a son who will be called "Immanuel", meaning "God with us", and that Ahaz's enemies will be destroyed before this child learns the difference between good and evil, i.e., before he reaches maturity. The Hebrew word is "עלמה" (almah), which scholars agree means a young woman of child-bearing age, without any connotation of virginity, and the context of the passage makes it clear that Isaiah has in mind events in his and Ahaz's near future. The Greek-speaking author of Matthew, however, used the Greek translation of Isaiah, in which the word is given as "παρθένος", parthenos, meaning a virgin.

Jesus never taught that his mother was a virgin or anything other then a normal human mother, albeit blessed with the distinction of being the earth mother of the incarnate Son of God.




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chrysostom

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hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so we were talking about Constantinople

and the thousand years

what about the ten horns?

the ones that will hate the whore?

yes

most count kings but I count dynasties

there were ten dynasties?

Constantinople fell to the tenth one in 1453

did you come up with this?

I let the historians do all the work for me

what are they?

you will find the ten dynasties here




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chrysostom

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hallelujah brothers and sisters this is where we gather in His name

so what about the beasts?

behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

I love it when you quote the bible, can you cite the passage?

yes, it is Revelation 17:8 KJV

that is pretty good for a catholic

thank you, thank you very much

doesn't the second beast come out of the bottomless pit?

yes, and this ties it all together as shown here




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