From Atheism To Faith In God ~ The Unbelieving Scientist And The Creationist

JAGG

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JAGG Writes:
From Atheism to Saving Faith In God

Scientist: I sometimes wonder if our "Natural Selection" can actually carry the heavy
load we have placed upon it?

Creationist: I too have some doubts. I don't always fully understand the Creation Story
in Genesis. Some of your fellow scientists have accused me of believing in a "talking
snake"

Scientist: Well, they ought not to have accused you of that. Obviously the snake was
metaphorical language, everybody knows snakes cannot talk.

Creationist: Thanks I'm glad you understand that. The snake represented Evil and
delivered the message that Evil always delivers.

Scientist: What message is that?

Creationist: That humans can be their own God.

Scientist: I don't understand. What do you mean "be their own God"?

Creationist: Its easy to understand. The snake, that is Evil, told Eve that if she ignored
God's commands and did what she wanted to do, that she would become like God.

Scientist: What was the exact words and where is that found?

Creationist: The exact words were "you will be like God" and its found in Genesis 3:5

Scientist: You believe Christ saved us from Evil, is that correct?

Creationist: Yes that's right, the Lord Jesus saved us from Evil, the Evil that will destroy
our souls if we do not have a Savior to deliver us from the strength and power of Evil.

Scientist: I don't understand that. Explain to me how Jesus can deliver us from Evil and
prevent us from being destroyed by it.

Creationist: Jesus took your punishment on the Cross.

Scientist: I don't understand that. That makes no sense to me.

Creationist: Its not difficult to understand, Evil is not only severely punishable but it will also
destroy the total person if it is not stopped and reversed.

Scientist: You said Evil is punishable?

Creationist: That is correct. The Bible teaches that God will punish all men who do evil.

Scientist: Well, I know that all men have done at least some Evil.

Creationist: That is correct and God will punish men for all their Evil if they do not believe
in His Son the Lord Jesus who took their punishment in their place.

Scientist: In their place?

Creationist: Yes in their place on the Cross. Christ took your punishment so you would
not have to bear it yourself.

Scientist: Where in the Bible does it say that?

Creationist: In 1 Peter 2:24 it says "He himself bore our sins" in his body on the cross,
so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been
healed."

Scientist: My mother taught me the words of John 3:16 when I was a young boy, and I
have never forgotten them, it goes like this "For God so loved the world that He gave
His one and only Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have Eternal Life."

Creationist: Yes, for God so loved the world that He punished His own Son for the sins
of the world so that we humans would not have to bear the excruciating pain and agony
that Christ bore for us on the Cross.

Scientist: I once, long ago, prayed the sinner's prayer. I remember I prayed to God
something along the lines of "Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your
forgiveness. I believe You died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my
sins and invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You
as my Lord and Savior."

Creationist: Did you understand what you were praying?

Scientist: No at the time I did not. In fact I have never understood it.

Creationist: There is nothing more profound than the simple words of John 3:16.

Scientist: Christianity has always seems complicated to me. Are you saying that
Christianity is simple and not complicated?

Creationist: Yes and quite simple too.

Scientist: Can you give an example of Christianity's simplicity?

Creationist: A man known to be a brilliant intellectual was asked to deliver a speech to
a college assembly and he was asked to present the most profound truth he had ever
come across in his decades of studies. When the time came for his speech, he walked
to the podium and looked out over the audience for a long time, without saying a word.
Time passed and people began to get nervous. At long last the speaker spoke and he
said this, "Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so." Then without saying
another word he went back to his seat. Many in the audience wept silently as the
supernatural power of the Holy Spirit made that brief message real to their hearts.

Ending:

The Scientist once again prayed the simple sinner's prayer and he prayed from his heart
"Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe You
died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to come
into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my Lord and Savior."

Then an amazing thing happened. The supernatural power of the Holy Spirit enlightened
the mind of the Scientist so that he could now understand spiritual truths and the Scientist
turned away from his Atheism and became a believing Christian.

__________________

"The Lord Has Laid On Him The Iniquity Of Us All" , , ,
"He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all."
Isaiah 53:3-6

JAGG
 

JAGG

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JAGG Writes:
From Atheism to Saving Faith In God

Scientist: I sometimes wonder if our "Natural Selection" can actually carry the heavy
load we have placed upon it?

Creationist: I too have some doubts. I don't always fully understand the Creation Story
in Genesis. Some of your fellow scientists have accused me of believing in a "talking
snake"

Scientist: Well, they ought not to have accused you of that. Obviously the snake was
metaphorical language, everybody knows snakes cannot talk.

Creationist: Thanks I'm glad you understand that. The snake represented Evil and
delivered the message that Evil always delivers.

Scientist: What message is that?

Creationist: That humans can be their own God.

Scientist: I don't understand. What do you mean "be their own God"?

Creationist: Its easy to understand. The snake, that is Evil, told Eve that if she ignored
God's commands and did what she wanted to do, that she would become like God.

Scientist: What was the exact words and where is that found?

Creationist: The exact words were "you will be like God" and its found in Genesis 3:5

Scientist: You believe Christ saved us from Evil, is that correct?

Creationist: Yes that's right, the Lord Jesus saved us from Evil, the Evil that will destroy
our souls if we do not have a Savior to deliver us from the strength and power of Evil.

Scientist: I don't understand that. Explain to me how Jesus can deliver us from Evil and
prevent us from being destroyed by it.

Creationist: Jesus took your punishment on the Cross.

Scientist: I don't understand that. That makes no sense to me.

Creationist: Its not difficult to understand, Evil is not only severely punishable but it will also
destroy the total person if it is not stopped and reversed.

Scientist: You said Evil is punishable?

Creationist: That is correct. The Bible teaches that God will punish all men who do evil.

Scientist: Well, I know that all men have done at least some Evil.

Creationist: That is correct and God will punish men for all their Evil if they do not believe
in His Son the Lord Jesus who took their punishment in their place.

Scientist: In their place?

Creationist: Yes in their place on the Cross. Christ took your punishment so you would
not have to bear it yourself.

Scientist: Where in the Bible does it say that?

Creationist: In 1 Peter 2:24 it says "He himself bore our sins" in his body on the cross,
so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been
healed."

Scientist: My mother taught me the words of John 3:16 when I was a young boy, and I
have never forgotten them, it goes like this "For God so loved the world that He gave
His one and only Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have Eternal Life."

Creationist: Yes, for God so loved the world that He punished His own Son for the sins
of the world so that we humans would not have to bear the excruciating pain and agony
that Christ bore for us on the Cross.

Scientist: I once, long ago, prayed the sinner's prayer. I remember I prayed to God
something along the lines of "Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your
forgiveness. I believe You died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my
sins and invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You
as my Lord and Savior."

Creationist: Did you understand what you were praying?

Scientist: No at the time I did not. In fact I have never understood it.

Creationist: There is nothing more profound than the simple words of John 3:16.

Scientist: Christianity has always seems complicated to me. Are you saying that
Christianity is simple and not complicated?

Creationist: Yes and quite simple too.

Scientist: Can you give an example of Christianity's simplicity?

Creationist: A man known to be a brilliant intellectual was asked to deliver a speech to
a college assembly and he was asked to present the most profound truth he had ever
come across in his decades of studies. When the time came for his speech, he walked
to the podium and looked out over the audience for a long time, without saying a word.
Time passed and people began to get nervous. At long last the speaker spoke and he
said this, "Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so." Then without saying
another word he went back to his seat. Many in the audience wept silently as the
supernatural power of the Holy Spirit made that brief message real to their hearts.

Ending:

The Scientist once again prayed the simple sinner's prayer and he prayed from his heart
"Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe You
died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to come
into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my Lord and Savior."

Then an amazing thing happened. The supernatural power of the Holy Spirit enlightened
the mind of the Scientist so that he could now understand spiritual truths and the Scientist
turned away from his Atheism and became a believing Christian.

__________________

"The Lord Has Laid On Him The Iniquity Of Us All" , , ,
"He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all."
Isaiah 53:3-6

JAGG
 

JAGG

New member
By "Scientist", did you really mean "Materialist"?
I don't know.
I don't know what you mean by "materialist"?

materialist -a person who supports the theory that nothing exists except matter and its movements and modifications.

By "scientist" I think I had in mind anybody who is a member of one or mote of the following , , ,

The Religion Of Evolution
The Religion Of Atheism
The Religion of Secular Humanism
The Religion Of Secularized Intellectualism
The Religion Of False-god-Science

Best.

JAG

Thought For Today.

"Therefore, since we have been justified through faith,
we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
through whom we have gained access by faith into this
grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope
of the glory of God"__Romans 5:1-2
 

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I don't know.
I don't know what you mean by "materialist"?

materialist -a person who supports the theory that nothing exists except matter and its movements and modifications.

By "scientist" I think I had in mind anybody who is a member of one or mote of the following , , ,

The Religion Of Evolution
The Religion Of Atheism
The Religion of Secular Humanism
The Religion Of Secularized Intellectualism
The Religion Of False-god-Science

Best.

JAG
Most of those in your list are materialists.

There are many creationists that are scientists.

Using "scientist" when you actually mean "atheist materialist" is quite wrong.
 

JAGG

New member
By "Scientist", did you really mean "Materialist"?

Thank you for reading my OP.
Did you like it?
By the way, I need big font -- eyes with some age on 'em, don't you see.

Best.

JAG

PS
The Great Commission is for the 21st century Christian Church to
carry out, right? , , lol , , I think I remember you from days gone by.

Hope you have been getting along very well.


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JAGG

New member
Most of those in your list are materialists.

There are many creationists that are scientists.

Using "scientist" when you actually mean "atheist materialist" is quite wrong.


True there are many Creationists that are Scientists.

I guess you are right on that. I could make a case for using the
word "scientist" and then qualifying how I was using it -- but I
will not argue the point -- what's done is done -- I am not
motivated to re-write the piece in the OP.

JAG
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Thought For Today:


“All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be the blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.”
__J.R.R. Tolkien


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