Well, no.
Executing homosexuals
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Not in America. Or anywhere outside of the Middle East, Africa, and Indonesia. So I have no idea where you got that from
Yeah. They take it too seriously sometimes. Maybe you missed the whole, "Shoot the guy who draws Mohammed" craze. Sharia doesn't work because it's an archaic system of law designed for the world 1500 years ago. If you implement religious law as the law of the land then tyranny, bigotry, and oppression ALWAYS results.
Christian Liberty
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Actually yes. "secularism" is its own religion.
I'm not defending that, but have you seen how some right-wingers get if they see a flag being desecrated?
Well, I don't like Sharia, but not because its "too old." I'm not a progressive.
It's not messed up just because it's old. It's messed up because it doesn't provide personal liberties to anyone but straight adult males. That just happened to be okay 1500 years ago, but no longer is because views on what is fair and acceptable evolve over centuries.
I see what you're saying about the flag desecration. However it's still not a religious response and more importantly it doesn't cause violence, however displeased somebody watching may be
That's just reinventing the dictionary. A secular government is by definition "not spiritual : of or relating to the physical world and not the spiritual world" whereas religion is, by definition, "the belief in a god or in a group of gods: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods".
Secular law isn't religion and its laws aren't religious declarations. Now many a law is compatible with any number of religious beliefs, though not all law and not every belief.
TracerBullet
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You are advocating murder yet you call yourself a Christian. That claim is a lie.
Christian Liberty
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That may be true of Sharia, it isn't true of Christian theonomy (which is far older.) I believe the Bible rejects a view of liberty that would only apply to straight white males. But here's the question. Why should other people have liberty? You need a BIBLICAL case.
Why should a Christian care about SUBJECTIVE views of what is fair and acceptable? Are you saying God's standard isn't good enough?
It is religious, it is religious idolatry and blasphemy. And it has led to violence.
The denial of spiritual is a religious system. I admit that I support a theocracy. More people should admit this, because every single person supports one.
Did God advocate murder in Leviticus 20:13?
You think others who are not Christian are not deserving of civil liberties? That's a pretty bold notion. I do believe they are, as are all people regardless of belief, sexual orientation, race, or any other qualifier.
The USA was founded on secular Enlightenment principles so that religious oppression could be avoided. People have rights no matter who they are or what they believe
Christian Liberty
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I didn't actually claim this. I claimed that the Bible is the starting point. So you have to prove your points from scripture. The Bible says you, and everyone else, knows that God exists (Romans 1) so reasoning from secular presuppositions makes no sense and is ungodly.
Again, prove your points from scripture.
That first part isn't completely true (there is some truth to it) but it doesn't matter. Psalms 2 and Matthew 28 say that all of the nations belong to Christ, whether they want to admit it or not.
No, it isn't. It's one thing to get a thing wrong and another to insist on it. At this point you're simply arguing with usage and dictionaries and if it's that deep with you I suppose I should leave off for the same reason I never have prolonged conversations with people who insist that either taxes or property equal theft.
Not germane to the error, but okay.
Also not objectively true.
Instead of using "quote" for Bible verses use "box" so they show up when someone quotes you.
Or don't use anything at all...
As for your argument, the command applies to aliens living in Israel.
You don't know what hate is.
Oh, that You would slay the wicked, O God!
Depart from me, therefore, you bloodthirsty men.
For they speak against You wickedly;
Your enemies take Your name in vain.
Do I not hate them, O Lord, who hate You?
And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?
I hate them with perfect hatred;
I count them my enemies.
-Psalm 139:19-22
Where? And why are you so lazy that you can't come up with a decent argument?
The fact that God prohibited murder and also commanded the execution of those who commit certain acts; homosexuality among them; your argument fails.
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TracerBullet
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you routinely provide fine examples of it.
are you to lazy to read?
Where as your argument is that you can murder any man, woman or child you please as long as you can quote bible passage to justify your crime.
OCTOBER23
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ZOO22 said,
There was that pastor who'd suggested containing all homosexual people inside a huge electrical fence. He said they'd die out in a few years,
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MEN SHALL BE LOVERS OF OTHER MEN IS A PROPHETIC SIGN.
2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves,
covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
There was that pastor who'd suggested containing all homosexual people inside a huge electrical fence. He said they'd die out in a few years,
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MEN SHALL BE LOVERS OF OTHER MEN IS A PROPHETIC SIGN.
2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves,
covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
TracerBullet
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As I said, you don't know what hate is.
I'm not too lazy to use the correct word. Which shows that I have never been too lazy to read.
As for you, I asked you; I didn't ask quip.
Where did I state that?
That verse means that they're narcissistic, not homosexual.
zoo22
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Okay, come on people, it's been years now. What progress has been made? Has anyone come up with a plan for executing the homosexuals?
I mean, while aCW seems to have amassed a massive collection of photographs of homosexual parades, he really doesn't seem to be making any headway in the decriminalization department, let alone getting the executions underway...
So how about it? What's the plan?
Are folks too busy seceding or something?
I mean, while aCW seems to have amassed a massive collection of photographs of homosexual parades, he really doesn't seem to be making any headway in the decriminalization department, let alone getting the executions underway...
So how about it? What's the plan?
Are folks too busy seceding or something?
(Is zoo22 uncomfortable with me showing the 'gay' culture as well? What ever happened to 'gay' pride?).
Looking at CDC reports, it appears that those who engage in homosexual behavior are doing a bang up job of killing themselves (AIDS, suicide, murder, drug overdoses, etc. etc. etc.).
What's the plan? Right now it's to elect Ted Cruz as President, who is a God-fearing man that will for the most part turn homosexual matters over to the respective states (buh bye Obergefell v Hodges and Lawrence v Texas, hello traditional marriage and the recriminalization of homosexuality in numerous States).
When you appear to spend more time thinking about gay people than gay people do it might be time to shift gears.