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Evolution and its effects.

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Some predictions of evolutionary theory:

"There must have been transitional forms between dinosaurs and birds."
Thomas Huxley ca. 1872

"Humans must have first appeared in Africa."
Darwin 1879

"The DNA of organisms should match evolutionary phylogenies."
Fitch and Margoliash, 1966

More if anyone would like to see some more.
 

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Some predictions of evolutionary theory:

"There must have been transitional forms between dinosaurs and birds."
Thomas Huxley ca. 1872

"Humans must have first appeared in Africa."
Darwin 1879

"The DNA of organisms should match evolutionary phylogenies."
Fitch and Margoliash, 1966

Some predictions of Biblical creation:

1. Dinosaurs died out. They didn't become birds.

2. Civilization began from Ararat.

3. DNA is a code that was designed magnificently according to the needs of each created kind.

There are plenty more if anyone would like to see them.

Encouragingly, this sets up a rational debate between two mutually exclusive ideas. It would be nice if each side could stick to falsifying their assumptions and not assert that their idea is "observed fact."

You know: Science. :up:
 

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the effect of Evolution is very negative because it is not observed Science

Evolution theory over the years has been changing and evolving as circular reason fueled by imaginative fantasy that has continually increased the age of the earth by great numbers using nothing but speculation and imagination.

It makes predictions that cannot be tested by experiment nor observation - the theory of evolution itself

evolution - ( the theory ) is evolving by imagination and creative fantasy
 

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Nope. It's just a theory.
"Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
 

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If we watch a population of animals and we notice that the frequency of genes in that population change as time goes on, we have observed evolution. The issue is not whether or not evolution happens, it's about how far such changes can go. Can it produce new species?
 

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"Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
Why your quotation marks? Whose words are you quoting?
 

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If we watch a population of animals and we notice that the frequency of genes in that population change as time goes on, we have observed evolution. The issue is not whether or not evolution happens, it's about how far such changes can go. Can it produce new species?

No one disagrees that species change over time.

That's why evolution proponents have to redefine evolution as "change over time."

But that's not what evolution is.

Evolution is when one species becomes an entirely new species.

Ie, from goo to the zoo to you.

We do not see that happen.

We DO see species changing, adapting to their environments.

We DO NOT see species becoming new species.
 

InHiswatch

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That's why evolution proponents have to redefine evolution as "change over time."

But that's not what evolution is.
Dictionary of Biology

Evolution is when one species becomes an entirely new species.

"As creationists, we must frequently remind detractors that we do not deny that species vary, change, and even appear over time."

"Before the time of Charles Darwin, a false idea had crept into the church—the belief in the “fixity” or “immutability” of species. According to this view, each species was created in precisely the same form that we find it today. The Bible nowhere teaches that species are fixed and unchanging."
- Answers in Genesis
 

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No one disagrees that species change over time.

That's why evolution proponents have to redefine evolution as "change over time."

But that's not what evolution is.

Evolution is when one species becomes an entirely new species.
Not to be too pedantic, but Darwinians think that all kinds have a single common ancestor. That is the myth. Kinds do branch into various species. That is actually demonstrable.
We DO NOT see species becoming new species.
Not exactly the way that we should put it.
Kinds do not become other kinds.
 

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So?
"As creationists, we must frequently remind detractors that we do not deny that species vary, change, and even appear over time."
God created many kinds of animals (and plants). They do not all share a common ancestor.
"Before the time of Charles Darwin, a false idea had crept into the church—the belief in the “fixity” or “immutability” of species. According to this view, each species was created in precisely the same form that we find it today. The Bible nowhere teaches that species are fixed and unchanging."
- Answers in Genesis
So what?
 
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Dictionary of Biology



"As creationists, we must frequently remind detractors that we do not deny that species vary, change, and even appear over time."

"Before the time of Charles Darwin, a false idea had crept into the church—the belief in the “fixity” or “immutability” of species. According to this view, each species was created in precisely the same form that we find it today. The Bible nowhere teaches that species are fixed and unchanging."
- Answers in Genesis

Ok, and? How does any of this address my point?
 

7djengo7

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humans evolved from ape-like ancestors
@InDarwin'sWatch, by "ape-like ancestors", which do you mean: humans or non-humans?

Which of the following, two things are you saying?
  1. "humans evolved from [humans]"?
  2. "humans evolved from [non-humans]"?
By "evolved from", do you mean were born to? Is this what you're saying: "humans [were born to] ape-like ancestors"?
 

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Darwinists have a deep-seated need to believe that everyone is an evolutionist.
True. Because Darwinists have no arguments, no rational thinking to present on behalf of their stupidity, they really do prefer to imagine that everyone just has to be as stupid as they are and will never notice. Since he has been banned from TOL, @Barbarian the lying Darwin cheerleader has posted here an amount of argument equal to the amount he had posted all the years before he was banned, as 0=0.
 
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